Posted on 06/01/2009 3:05:21 PM PDT by reaganaut1
KAREN LEE TORRE [laywer for firefighers]: Firefighters die every week in this country. ... [There was a case ] a few miles away where a young father and firefighter Eddie Ramos died after a truss roof collapsed in a warehouse fire because the person who commanded the scene decided to send men into an unoccupied house, with no people to save on Thanksgiving Day, with a truss roof known to collapse early in the fire [...]
Then Judge Sotomayor interrupts:
JUDGE SOTOMAYOR: Counsel ... we're not suggesting that unqualified people be hired. The city's not suggesting that. All right? But there is a difference between where you score on the test and how many openings you have. And to the extent that there's an adverse impact on one group over the other, so that the first seven who are going to be hired only because of the vagrancies [sic] of the vacancies at that moment, not because you're unqualified--the pass rate is the pass rate--all right? But if your test is always going to put a certain group at the bottom of the pass rate so they're never ever going to be promoted, and there is a fair test that could be devised that measures knowledge in a more substantive way, then why shouldn't the city have an opportunity to try and look and see if it can develop that?
KAREN LEE TORRE: Because they already developed it, your honor.
JUDGE SOTOMAYOR: It assumes the answer. It assumes the answer which is that, um, the test is valid because we say it's valid.
KAREN LEE TORRE: The testing consultant said it was valid. He told them it was valid.... They had evidence that the test was job-related and valid for use under Title VII.
(Excerpt) Read more at weeklystandard.com ...
Unbelievable. The Rats are just falling all over themselves to anoint her.
A bigot’s bigot.
The quintessential Democrap appointment.
Her hearing will be fun.....Republicans should work hard to set her off...she will blow if pushed!
Say it with me, “The tower of Babel”. Trace this crisis back to its roots. Ted Kennedy and the 1965 Immigration and Naturalization Reform Act.
Too many third world cultures too fast has created most of the problems we face today. Ain’t Globalism grand? I support legal, orderly immigration for all. That is not what we got with Ted’s agenda to swell the numbers of the dying democrat party.
Hell, now you don’t even have to be a citizen to vote for democrats.
Don’t you say a word about the rule of law you racist!
“The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do (say) nothing.” Attributed to Edmund Burke
Using a LOT of Latin terms injected into their questions should help.
(But if your test is always going to put a certain group at the bottom of the pass rate so they’re never ever going to be promoted)
Pretty powerful stuff. She pretty much assumes that if she doesn’t like the result of the test (in terms of who passed), then the test must be at fault. Where’s the evidence that the test was keeping minorities down?
most unqualified judge EVER.
in fact she should be forced out of her current position if this is her super “brain power”.
imagine if the races were reverse. The “wrong skin” color passes the test and wins the promotion. In order to not hire the “wrong skin” color, the promotion is cancelled. Nobody promoted so no discrimination.
That has to have been litigated.
The test was race neutral, stated by experts as race neutral and yet since the result was not quota reinforcing they tossed it.
ON TOP OF THAT other judges ripped her a new one for dishonest behavior in trying to conceal her dubious ethical conduct.
WHY IS THERE NO JUDICIAL COMPLAINT AGAINST THIS WOMAN?
Ebonics anyone?:^0
I'm a long-time supporter of Puerto Rican Independence. They have their own 500 year old culture. They speak Spanish. And they're on a island hundreds of miles from the US mainland.
Soto: “...and there is a fair test that could be devised that measures knowledge in a more substantive way, then why shouldn’t the city have an opportunity to try and look and see if it can develop that? “
I guess Soto would like a single-choice test for those hampered by by desire-to-study-challenged.
Or maybe a substantive way would be to give the answers to the people that are supposed be hired, vagrancly speaking. Sic? Getting worse every day....
Pretty soon algebra tests will be essay form and graded on richness of experience.
LOL. I think they don't like it when a fellow student is ''acting white''.
“Her hearing will be fun.....Republicans . . .”
Are you kidding? The Republicans will be falling all over themselves to ensure that everyone in the media loves them. The Democrats, with their long winded speaches fawning all over her will be more critical than the republicans in the Senate.
True, true...but Sessions has a reputation as a tough prosecutor...let’s see if he shows off a bit!
My error was not making clear that Sotomayor’s membership in “LaRaza” supersedes her rich and honorable Puerto Rican heritage.
Why does “La Raza” matter? They foment hatred. Here is a collection of anti-gringo hateful quotes from fellow travelers from “La Raza” and many other leading “Civil Rights” luminaries.
“What we need is the destruction of whiteness, which is the source of human misery in the world.” [REV. JAMES CONE- Quoted in David Horowitz, Hating Whitey, Spence Publishing, 1999, p. 44.]
“California is going to be a Mexican state, we are going to control all the institutions. If people don’t like it they should leave.” [MARIO OBLEDO-(1998 Presidential Medal of Freedom recipient and former head of Mexican American Legal Defense and Education Fund-MALDEF) Tom Leykis Radio Show, June 7, 1998.]
“You can’t steal nothin from a white man, he’s already stole it he owes you anything you want, even his life. All the stores will open up if you will say the magic words. The magic words are: Up against the wall motherf- this is a stick up!” [AMIRI BARAKA (black poet and writer) Quoted in Anne Wortham, The Other Side of Racism, Ohio State University Press, 1981, p. 257.]
“Hollywood is owned by these so-called Jews. Look at the movies they make about us, black people killing black people. Let’s make some revolutionary movies where we kill white people in the movie. Kill ‘em so hard you have to cover up your popcorn from the blood spraying out of the screen.” [KHALID ABDUL MUHAMMED (former assistant to Louis Farrakhan-current leader of the New Black Panther Party) Speech at San Francisco State University, May 21, 1997.]
“We kill the women. We kill the babies. We kill the blind. We kill the cripples. We kill them all…. When you get through killing them all, go to the goddamn graveyard and kill them a-goddamn-gain because they didn’t die hard enough.”[KHALID ABDUL MUHAMMED (on what South African blacks should do to any whites who refuse to leave South Africa) November 29, 1993 speech at Kean College in Union, New Jersey.]
Sonny Carson (black activist in New York, when asked if he was anti-Semitic): “I am anti-white. I don’t limit my ‘anti’ to just one group of people.” [Mark Mooney, “Ex-Dinkins Organizer Boasts He’s ‘AntiWhite’” New York Post, October 21, 1989, p. 3.]
“After looking at all the evidence there is only one conclusion: white people are devils…. I believe that we must secure our freedom and independence from these devils by any means necessary, including violence…. To protect ourselves we should bear arms (three handguns and two rifles, maybe an M-16) immediately and form a militia. …. So black people, let us unite, organize, and execute.” [Chino Wilson, “African American Students Should Not Trust ‘Devilish ‘ White People,” The Daily Collegian, Penn State University, January 28, 1992.]
Gus Savage (former U.S. Representative from Chicago to a white member of the press) “I don’t talk to you white motherf- .… You bitch motherf- in the white press…. F- you, you motherf-ing asshole white devils.” (Marilyn Rauber, “Reporter Says Black Rep Hurled Racial Slurs,” New York Post, June 27, 1991, p. 18.)
Eldrege Cleaver (former Black Panther leader on why he raped white women): “Rape was an insurrectionary act. It delighted me that I was defying and trampling upon the white man’s law, upon his system of values, and that I was defiling his women.” [Eldridge Cleaver, Soul on Ice, McGraw-Hill, 1968, p.14.]
“The death of over 120 white people is a very beautiful thing.” [MALCOLM X-Speech in Los Angeles on June 3, 1962 upon learning of a plane crash. He also said on numerous occasions, “The white man is the devil.”] “I don’t care about your idiot children.” [WILLIE BROWN (Mayor of San Francisco, to a white parent complaining that affirmative action would penalize his children) The Social Contract, Summer 1998, p. 290.]
“Remember, [Proposition] 187 [the measure to cut public benefits to illegal aliens] is the last gasp of white America.” [ART TORRES (former chairman, California Democratic Party)- The Social Contact, Summer 1998, p. 290.]
“Civil rights laws were not passed to protect the rights of white men and do not apply to them.” [MARY FRANCES BERRY (current head of U.S. Commission on Civil Rights, Civil Rights Under Reagan), San Francisco, ICS Press, 1991, p. 141.]
“We’re here today to show L.A., show the minority people here, the Anglo-Saxons, that we are here, the majority, we’re here to stay. We do the work in this city, we take care of the spoiled brat children…. we are the majority here and we are not going to be pushed around.” (AUGUSTIN CEBADA, Head of the Brown Berets, a Hispanic activist organization at a July 4, 1996 rally)
“Go back to Simi Valley, you skunks! Go back to Woodland Hills! Go back to Boston! Go back to Plymouth Rock, Pilgrims! Get out! We are the future. You are old and tired. Go on. We have beaten you. Leave like beaten rats. You old white people, it is your duty to die.” [AUGUSTIN CEBADA Quoted in Barbara Coe, Reconquista, The Takeover of America, California Coalition for Immigration Reform, 1998, p. 20.]
Khallid Abdul Muhammad: “We are here to say that violence and racism and hatred of the white man in America is just as American as apple and cherry pie.” (Las Vegas Review-Journal and Sun — June 14, 1998, pg. 3A)
Peter Brimelow: “But the double standards are irritating. Anyone who has got into an immigration debate with, for example, Hispanic activists must be instantly aware that some of them really are consumed by the most intense racial animosity—directed against whites. How come what’s sauce for the goose is not sauce for the ganso?” (Alien Nation — 1995, pg. 11)
“[Jim Mellen] marched with the Weathermen in their “Days of Rage” in Chicago, trashing downtown businesses to protest “Amerikan” racism and the “imperialist” war. He became the group’s “theoretician,” writing their famous declaration of race war: “You Don’t Need a Weatherman to Know Which Way the Wind Blows.” In this war, America’s white radicals were going to act as a fifth column, to help the darker races conquer America and divide its ill-gotten spoils. It was the same war that the May 19 Communist Organization was seeking to instigate with its failed robbery attempt.” (David Horowitz ,Radical Son — 1997, pg. 335)
“We have an aging white America. They are dying. They are shitting in their pants with fear!… I love it!”-[PROF. JOSE ANGEL GUTIERREZ (University of Texas, Arlington) Speech of Jan. 1995, quoted in Coe, Reconquista, p. 16.]
“You guys have been practicing discrimination for years. Now it is our turn.” [SUPREME COURT JUSTICE THURGOOD MARSHALL (in a conversation with Justice William Douglas about racial preferences) William O. Douglas, The Court Years 1939-1975, New York, Random House, 1980.]
“I am writing this essay sitting beside an anonymous white male that I long to murder.” [BELL HOOKS (black professor of English at City College of New York) From her book A Killing Rage, quoted by David Horowitz in Hating Whitey, Spence Publishing, 1999, p. 31.]
“If black people kill black people every day, why not have a week and kill white people.”(SISTER SOULJAH (rap artist and black activist [R.W. Apple “Jackson Sees ‘Character Flaw’ in Clinton’s Remarks on Racism, New York Times, June 19, 1992.]
“Managing diversity activists emphasize that their sessions are designed to fight white hubris. Sometimes this is done in a heavy-handed way, through “shame and blame” sessions focused on white men. “White male is what I call the newest swear word in America,” consultant Harris Susan acknowledges. ... [diversity consultant] Katz’s solution? “Whites need to be reeducated.” Another consultant, Jacqueline Dickens, argues, “Whites have got to be willing to be uncomfortable until they learn what they may be doing that’s offensive, and black people have got to be willing to take on the role of teacher.” (Dinesh D’souza (The End of Racism — 1995, pg. 329)
“I’m gonna say this. It’s white men that have made a mess of this country,” [state Rep. Charles] Morrow [D-Chicago] said. ... “I’m not saying all white men are bad. We have a lot more bad ones than good ones,” .. . (Carrie Napoleon (Star News “Racial comment sparks controversy” — 3/08/98)
“Caucasians are programmed to be pillagers, murderers, cheaters,” he insisted. “This comes with their mother’s milk.” (The Staff of The New York Times, The Story Behind the Tawana Brawley Hoax — 1990, pg. 8) To Rookard, the news of Tawana Brawley had the ring of truth. “I know it has to be real because I know the area,” he said. “I know what those white people are capable of and what the white world in general is ashamed to admit.” (pg. 71)
“My white skin disgusts me. My passport disgusts me. They are the marks of an insufferable privilege bought at the price of others’ agony. If I could peel myself inside out I would be glad. If I could become part of the oppressed I would be free.” (Robin Morgan (The Demon Lover: On the Sexuality of Terrorism — 1989, pg. 224)
“In white America, cultural conservatism takes the form of a chronic racism, sexism, and homophobia. ... for white America, this means primarily scapegoating black people, women, gay men, and lesbians.” (Cornel West (Race Matters — 1993, pg. 27)
“It goes without saying that a profound hatred of African people (as seen in slavery, lynching, segregation, and second-class citizenship) sits at the center of American civilization.” (pg. 73) “We are used to hearing the Founders charged with being racists, murderers of Indians, representatives of class interests.” (Arthur M. Schlesinger, Jr., The Disuniting of America: Reflections on a Multicultural Society — 1992, pg. 57 )
“Europe has reigned long enough; it is the source of most of the evil in the world anyway;” (pg. 64) “The Western tradition, in this view, is inherently racist, sexist, “classist,” hegemonic, irredeemably repressive, irredeemably oppressive.” (pg. 123) “Western European culture is the most destructive phenomenon in the known history of the planet. ... It is deeply hateful of life and committed to death;” ((Dinesh D’souza, Illiberal Education — 1992, pg. 7)
[T]he United States has “taken this incredibly fertile continent and utterly destroyed it with a ravaging hatred.” (pg. 18) In 1985, black trumpeter Miles Davis said, “If somebody told me I only had an hour to live, I’d spend it choking a white man. I’d do it nice and slow.” (Jared Taylor (Paved With Good Intentions: The Failure of Race Relations in America — 1992, pg. 233)
On the night of May 18, 1993, in Miami, a mere thirteen people—the Metropolitan Dade County Commission—voted to repeal a thirteen-year-old ordinance declaring English the official language of local government. ... Many in the commission, including Hispanics, laughed when “Anglos” at the meeting complained that their very way of life was in danger of being destroyed. ... This meeting marked the first time that pure competitive demographics prompted a decision to effectively break down the dominance of the unifying American language; it was the first time any government, at any level, in the history of America, was able officially to reject English as the official language, and it was the bellwether of a far larger transformational agenda being pushed on various levels across the country. (Georgie Anne Geyer (Americans No More: The Death of Citizenship — 1996, pg. 82-83)
“Being in the system, man, you gotta know how to handle stress. Remember when we used to go round looking for white boys, and when we’d find one we’d beat him until we got tired?” That is why [James] Baldwin can write, in 1972, ... “[I]t is not necessary for a black man to hate a white man, or to have any particular feelings about him at all, in order to realize that he must kill him.” (Arnold Beichman, Anti-American Myths — 1993, pg. 46)
[Chris Rock, actor] on being bused to a poor white neighborhood: “Ain’t nothing scarier than poor white people. Even white people are scared of poor white people. They lived under the trailer home. They weren’t white trash; they were white toxic waste.” (Jill Nelson, Las Vegas Review-Journal and Sun — USA WEEKEND — July 10-12, 1998, pgg. 5)
How come the MCAT or other MAJOR tests LIKE the Bar Exam are not held in question in the same manner?? Maybe these too are prejudiced exams, yes?? sarc!
Is there a firefighter test on which whites and Hispanics do not, on average, outscore blacks? I would hazard a guess that no one has succeeded in developing such a test.
This pattern exists throughout the testing universe, whether it is SATs, LSATs, MCATS, whatever ... you name it. It is reality and cannot be wished away by the judiciary.
This is not to say that there are no blacks who can score in the upper ranges. It just didnt happen in this case.
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