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Bomb Threat on Air France Flight
Momento 24 ^ | May 27, 2009

Posted on 06/02/2009 7:51:15 PM PDT by brytlea

The airport safety delayed an Air France flight this evening before departring for Paris immediately after the company received a bomb threat over the phone at the airport of Ezeiza.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: airfrance; bomb; planecrash; tm; trop
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To: sonofstrangelove
PanAm 103 over Lockerbe was supposed to explode over water too. The altimeter in the bomb malfunctioned or the plane reached altitude sooner than expected. Any way no one took responsibility IIRC. Could be narco terrorism too.
101 posted on 06/02/2009 9:54:03 PM PDT by skimask (When dealing with people who value death over life, traditional means of deterrence will not work)
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To: garjog

Usually with a bomb someone accepts responsibility. Is that not being reported?


102 posted on 06/02/2009 9:56:45 PM PDT by huldah1776 ( Worthy is the Lamb)
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To: skimask

You are correct. But the last communications from the plane said that their power was failing.


103 posted on 06/02/2009 9:59:05 PM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld
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To: 2harddrive

“That COULD explain the absence of a MAYDAY call!”

TWO Debris fields, 35 miles apart is pretty self-explanatory, in my view.

It means a mid-air breakup, with different sections coming down in different areas.

I thought “bomb” from the first moment I heard this.


104 posted on 06/02/2009 10:10:46 PM PDT by tcrlaf ("Hope" is the most Evil of all Evils"-Neitzsche)
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To: sonofstrangelove

Some reports said the auto report system transmitted a signal that said there was a simultaneous power failure and loss of cabin pressure.

Not an improbable bomb signature, as are widely separated debris fields.

(Welcome to FR, BTW)...


105 posted on 06/02/2009 10:13:46 PM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 134 of our national holiday from reality.)
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To: conservative cat

“I was surprised at how many Arabic looking passengers boarded”

Not really surprising...

Air France is the safest Airline of Choice for flights from N. and Central Africa, as well as Syria/Lebanon.

Large numbers of Arab ethnic folks isn’t unusual for Air France.


106 posted on 06/02/2009 10:13:46 PM PDT by tcrlaf ("Hope" is the most Evil of all Evils"-Neitzsche)
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To: brytlea

this is not good


107 posted on 06/02/2009 10:19:03 PM PDT by Justin1984
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To: IncPen

Just remember they are Obama’s family, Friends, Congregants, Associate, Classmates and Partners in Crime. Why, Oh Why should we be surprized when Obama invites them to Dinner and Sleepovers in the Lincoln bedroom, and gives them Free Access to Al of Our Nuclear Secrets and Designs.
After all, Barry Soetoro wants them to Love HIM! NOT AMERICA!


108 posted on 06/02/2009 10:23:13 PM PDT by True Republican Patriot (GOD BLESS AMERICA and Our Last Great President George W. Bush)
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To: sonofstrangelove

Welcome to FR, gosh, you arrived just in time for this crash! Your expertise surely will be welcome:-)


109 posted on 06/02/2009 10:26:49 PM PDT by True Republican Patriot (GOD BLESS AMERICA and Our Last Great President George W. Bush)
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To: brytlea
"Did someone say 'bomb'"?


110 posted on 06/02/2009 10:27:32 PM PDT by Deo volente
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To: null and void

It sounds like Airbus has now had a rare center wing tank explosion. You know the one where it only happens once, and almost nothing is done but a symbolic attempt to prevent it from happening again, wink wink. I wonder if Airbus will race out to take credit for the explosion, like Boeing did.


111 posted on 06/02/2009 10:32:38 PM PDT by ME-262 (We need Term Limits for the federal house and senate. We need new Bums up there.)
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To: null and void

I agree. Thank you very much for your welcome


112 posted on 06/02/2009 10:42:14 PM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld
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To: True Republican Patriot

Thank you very much for the welcome. I am not an expert. I am just an observer of life.


113 posted on 06/02/2009 10:43:57 PM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld
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To: brytlea

Here is an interesting site with very detailed information on weather and possible causes. No mention of a bomb, but he wrote this before the bomb scare. http://www.weathergraphics.com/tim/af447/


114 posted on 06/02/2009 10:44:00 PM PDT by Angel
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To: zot

I think it suggests a single plane coming apart at altitude and the debris spreading over a huge area as it falls. Lightening might POSSIBLY cause electrical failure, but not catastrophic failure of the entire craft.....


115 posted on 06/02/2009 10:58:27 PM PDT by ALASKA (I feel more like I do today than I did yesterday.....)
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To: brytlea
A missle or a bomb would certainly explain the non mayday call and the system sending a report that the electrical etc went haywire. This is how I see it. People going about their business including the pilots. A bomb blows from the back or a missle hits it from below (reserve judgement here as I am not sure how far out they were in the ocean or if something could have been launched from a ship.). System sends immediate distress that everything is haywire. Plane continues to shatter apart and fall into the ocean.

Much more likely than lightening and other stupid dumb butt delusions trying to be sold in the media.

116 posted on 06/02/2009 11:01:15 PM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: ALASKA

exactly. Lightening is just some red herring.


117 posted on 06/02/2009 11:02:28 PM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: PhiKapMom
On one of the pilot message boards they explained how the planes have the capability to dissipate lightening strikes and didn’t think turbulance could take down the plane either.

They should think again.

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Synopsis: Approaching Mildenhall, after an Atlantic crossing with a known inoperative weather radar, the aircraft entered an area of thunderstorms and heavy rain. The aircraft encountered severe turbulence and broke up in-flight. There were no survivors of 18 onboard.

The crew was alerted from home station at 2100 hours local. The aircraft commander had spent a full duty day in the office, the day of the mission.

The aircraft’s previous crew had written up the APN-59 radar as "extremely weak and unusable", but on the ground it seemed to be working, so it was signed off as "Ops Check Okay". The maintenance crewman assigned to fix the radar, did not know that it had been written up eight times previously.

At McGuire Base Ops, the Mildenhall weather was forecast to be "3/8 at 2500 feet, 4/8 at 4000 feet". Shortly after takeoff, the crew noticed that the radar was inoperative. Since severe weather was not forecast, they elected to continue to Mildenhall. Two hours after takeoff, British forecasters issued a SIGMET for "Moderate to occasional severe clear air turbulence from FL240 to FL400". USAF Global Weather downgrades it to "Moderate". It doesn’t matter, the crew is never aware of the report. Four hours after takeoff the crew updates the weather forecast. They receive a weather forecast of "3/8 at 3000’, 4/8 at 4000 feet with an intermittent condition of wind 030/12 gusting 22, visibility five miles in thunderstorms, 2/8 at 2000’ 5/8 at 2500 feet". One hour from destination, the crew again tried to update the weather, but due to scheduled autovon maintenance at Mildenhall, the crew could not make contact. They attempted another station. This time the report was "4/8 Thunderstorms tops to FL260". During the enroute decent they entered the clouds. At FL 150, they requested vectors around the weather, from the air traffic controller. Because the primary radar was inoperative, the controller advised that he would have difficulty providing avoidance vectors. He reported, "I can’t see any way through it all". The crew replied, "…MAC is attempting to maintain VMC and to pick our way through…". That was the last transmission from the aircraft. Radar tracked the aircraft as it entered the leading edge of a very strong line of thunderstorm cells. A few moments later, at FL90 and 25NM northwest of RAF Mildenhall, the radar target disappeared. The aircraft was seen, by ground observers, falling from the clouds in pieces.

Investigation revealed no evidence of lightning strike or fatigue failure. The aircraft apparently encountered severe turbulence. Accident investigators estimated gust loads in excess of the design limit of any transport class aircraft. One estimate indicated they encountered a 100 mph downward vertical airshaft. The right wing had failed, followed quickly by the upper half of the vertical stabilizer, and the four engines. All 14 crew, including members of a deadheading Reserve crew, and 4 passengers were killed.

http://www.c141heaven.com/mishap_paul_hansen.htm

118 posted on 06/02/2009 11:04:18 PM PDT by zipper
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To: PhiKapMom

Two more:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BOAC_Flight_911

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Braniff_Flight_250


119 posted on 06/02/2009 11:10:14 PM PDT by zipper
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To: topher

The black box is in about 2000 to 3000 meters of water. It will not be easy to get them(there are two I believe).


120 posted on 06/02/2009 11:12:37 PM PDT by calex59
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