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NRA Appeals Seventh Circuit Ruling to the U.S. Supreme Court
NRA-ILA ^ | 06/04/09 | unk

Posted on 06/04/2009 5:59:45 AM PDT by epow

On Wednesday, June 3, the National Rifle Association filed a petition for certiorari to the U.S. Supreme Court in the case of NRA v. Chicago. The NRA strongly disagrees with yesterday's decision issued by a three-judge panel of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Seventh Circuit, holding that the Second Amendment does not apply to state and local governments


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 7thcircuit; appeal; banglist; chicago; decision; lawsuit; nra; ruling
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To: epow
The 14th Amendment clearly and unequivocally states that the states must provide "equal protection under the law" to all people within their jurisdiction

Indeed so. If a state required Black men to register machine guns while exempting White men, that would violate equal protection.

201 posted on 06/04/2009 10:25:53 AM PDT by Mojave (Don't blame me. I voted for McClintock.)
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To: Mojave
Non sequitur. Try again.

The BoR is a positive declaration of our Rights as US Citizens. Regardless of which State we live in.

202 posted on 06/04/2009 10:26:07 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (III)
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To: chicagolady

I have that on DVD. The dating rules part was hard (make that impossible) to take seriously. The rest was pretty good.


203 posted on 06/04/2009 10:26:24 AM PDT by RobRoy (This too will pass. But it will hurt like a you know what.)
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To: Mojave
It didn't. The court "discovered" that restriction in the 14th Amendment. Leftists have little regard for original intent.

It's your opinion that the original intent of "the people" was to allow states but not the federal government to disarm them?

204 posted on 06/04/2009 10:26:56 AM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: Mojave
Really? Where does the Court get to re-write the BoR to fit it's own whims?

that clause was apparently left out of my copy of the Constitution and the one in the National Archives.

205 posted on 06/04/2009 10:27:06 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (III)
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To: RobRoy
bill of rights) does not proclaim what rights the government gives individuals. Rather, it proclaims what God-given rights cannot be taken away by the government.

The FEDERAL government.

206 posted on 06/04/2009 10:27:40 AM PDT by Mojave (Don't blame me. I voted for McClintock.)
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self-ping to read later


207 posted on 06/04/2009 10:29:24 AM PDT by Repeal The 17th (When the time comes, right thinking men will know what to do.)
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To: Mojave

read the whole post.

The federal government cannot control free speech.

Neither can cities or states.

It is because they are controlled by the same constitution. These united states are all under the umbrella of the same constitution. The purpose of the constitution is to LIMIT GOVERNMENT AT ALL LEVELS under it’s umbrella.


208 posted on 06/04/2009 10:29:32 AM PDT by RobRoy (This too will pass. But it will hurt like a you know what.)
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To: Mojave

Of course...

Because an individual only has rights under the federal government. Not the state. So the state should/is free to make whatever law is deemed fit.

Right?


209 posted on 06/04/2009 10:29:54 AM PDT by Double Tap
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To: Mojave

My next sentence after that one: This means that if the federal government cannot take away a certain right, then NO government under that umbrella can.

The umbrella is the government limiting constitution.

This is really US Government 101.


210 posted on 06/04/2009 10:32:23 AM PDT by RobRoy (This too will pass. But it will hurt like a you know what.)
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To: VRWCmember
Dred Scott is a decision based on the same kind of faulty reasoning that produced Barron and Kelo.

Backwards. Dred Scott held that state laws against slavery did NOT act free a slave taken there by his master. Taney rejected state law in favor of rationalizations of his own creation.

Just like you.

211 posted on 06/04/2009 10:32:29 AM PDT by Mojave (Don't blame me. I voted for McClintock.)
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To: jwalsh07
It's your opinion that the original intent of "the people" was to allow states but not the federal government to disarm them?

They expressed their intent regarding their states' powers through their states' constitutions. We have a federal, not a national, government.

At least for the moment.

212 posted on 06/04/2009 10:35:13 AM PDT by Mojave (Don't blame me. I voted for McClintock.)
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To: Mojave
they would have declared this purpose in plain and intelligible language."

Plain and intelligible language such as the use of phrases such as "Congress shall make no law" in certain places and phrases like "shall not be infringed" in other places.

Under Marshall's reasoning, the restrictions on Congress in Article I, Section 9, would apply only to Congress, and as such any state would be free to pass bills of attainder or ex post facto laws, suspend the privelige of Writ of Habeas Corpus, or grant titles of nobility. Obviously, if the states intended to apply those restrictions on themselves they could do so by modifying their own laws or constitutions.

213 posted on 06/04/2009 10:36:41 AM PDT by VRWCmember
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To: RobRoy
Should be.

Now watch Rosco use layer after layer of judicial activism to try and weasel around this. His hypocrisy knows no boundaries.

214 posted on 06/04/2009 10:37:28 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (III)
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To: Mojave

I notice how you still refuse to answer the simple question of whether or not the 2nd Amendment is a collective or individual right. Your answer makes it clear where you stand on this entire issue.


215 posted on 06/04/2009 10:38:04 AM PDT by ohioman
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To: Mojave
You agree with the Dredd Scott decision.

Was that a decision involving Sylvester Stallone's character in Judge Dredd? I believe I already mentioned the Dred Scott decision's rightful place in the dustbin of history of bad SCOTUS case law right alongside Barron.

216 posted on 06/04/2009 10:39:07 AM PDT by VRWCmember
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To: RobRoy
The federal government cannot control free speech.

Under the "incorporated" 1st Amendment, they silence prayers, build anti-speech zones around abortuaries and force townspeople to remove crucifixes from their town squares.

To your delight, no doubt.

217 posted on 06/04/2009 10:39:57 AM PDT by Mojave (Don't blame me. I voted for McClintock.)
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To: Dead Corpse
Where does the Court get to re-write the BoR to fit it's own whims?

It shouldn't. The universally understood intent of the Framers should stand against your desire to have the federal judiciary rewrite it.

218 posted on 06/04/2009 10:41:53 AM PDT by Mojave (Don't blame me. I voted for McClintock.)
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To: Mojave
They expressed their intent regarding their states' powers through their states' constitutions. We have a federal, not a national, government.

You didn't answer the question. The document was ratified by "the people", not by the founders. Why would the people assign states the power to infringe on their natural rights for no reason or any reason at all?

And why would the federal government give states the power to disarm the militia when the US Constitution gives the federal government the power to call up that militia?

219 posted on 06/04/2009 10:42:10 AM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: Mojave
The decision explicitly recognized the universal understanding of the framers.

Actually it restated the plainly written text with the court's "universal understanding" of the framers' intent which the framers so cleverly hid in the penumbras visible while wearing black robes. Changing the meaning of the words from what they actually say to what they would have said had they been written according to one's "universal understanding" of the intent is pretty much the classical definition of judicial activism.

220 posted on 06/04/2009 10:42:39 AM PDT by VRWCmember
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