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To: Claud
"The case for ca. 6,000 more or less is most compelling in relation to the creation of Adam. It's the 6 days prior though that are the sticking point. Ever read Gerald Schroeder?"

Ever read Genesis where it says "evening and morning X day" for each of the 6 days prior?

Ever read Exodus 20:11 where it directly relates the seven day week and the Sabbath to the creation week?

"We can have this debate. But I'm sick and tired of exegetes puffing up their chests with their own very fallible interpretations instead of some humility, as is proper toward the Word of God."

We can have this debate. But I'm sick and tired of exegetes putting on a false humility as though agreeing with man's word is virtuous and giving God credit for being able to say what he really did is human pride. (Isa 5:20)

Everything is on the table except what the Word of God actually says. OMG, we can't allow that!

73 posted on 06/04/2009 10:27:35 AM PDT by GourmetDan (Eccl 10:2 - The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.)
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To: GourmetDan
Ever read Genesis where it says "evening and morning X day" for each of the 6 days prior?

Yeah, and as the Church Fathers said, what kind of day were days 1-3 without the sun? What kind of evening? What kind of morning? This is not a problem with science....this is a problem *right in the text* that the very first Jewish and Christian commentators noticed straight off. A natural day is literally defined by the sun...these cannot then be a natural day.

And of course I've read Exodus 20:11. But because Scripture has one sense doesn't mean it doesn't have another as well. Are you going to tell me that 70 "weeks" in Daniel's prophecy only meant literally 7-day periods? We're dealing with multiple levels of meaning here.

But I'm sick and tired of exegetes putting on a false humility as though agreeing with man's word is virtuous and giving God credit for being able to say what he really did is human pride. (Isa 5:20)

What is human pride is for modern-day exegetes to come to Genesis 1...which every Rabbi and Church Father admitted was an extraordinarily difficult text...and pretend that they have it all figured out in terms of what God did and how.

ALL of the interpretations out there, GourmetDan, and that includes yours and mine and everyone else's, *are subject to error*. Believing otherwise is not only prideful but flagrantly heretical.

Ah this doctrine of perspecuity....what evil it hath wrought in the Church.

79 posted on 06/04/2009 10:44:50 AM PDT by Claud
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