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What Kind of Church Accepts Dr. George Tiller?
The Kansas City Star ^
| June 7, 2009 - 11:29am.
| By Barb Shelly
Posted on 06/07/2009 2:56:42 PM PDT by lewisglad
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To: trumandogz
Nice straw man.
I was addressing a specific statement by the n00b. I have a specific question in relation to the n00b’s specific statement. I don’t feel like copying and pasting, but at this point, the posts are still there if you’d like to review.
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posted on
06/07/2009 3:32:45 PM PDT
by
BykrBayb
(Fight the bastards or perish! ~ Jim Robinson ~ Þ)
To: lewisglad
I would have to say the same type of church that embraced Hitler and his like. A church where sin is not preached or that our choices can send us to hell. A church full of greasy grace and no sanctification.
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posted on
06/07/2009 3:34:37 PM PDT
by
guitarplayer1953
(Psalm 83:1-8 is on the horizon.)
To: aberaussie; Aeronaut; aliquando; AlternateViewpoint; AnalogReigns; Archie Bunker on steroids; ...
Lutheran (ELCA) Ping!
Glory to the Holy Trinity!
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posted on
06/07/2009 3:34:38 PM PDT
by
lightman
(Adjutorium nostrum (+) in nomine Domini.)
To: lewisglad
“Thou shalt not kill” fits for both the murderer and the abortionist.
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posted on
06/07/2009 3:35:28 PM PDT
by
Saundra Duffy
(For victory & freedom!!!)
To: BykrBayb
I read his post and while Tiller was a Killer, he did not deserve to be assassinated.
Moreover, his question was stupid since no Christian church would condone Tiller being killed.
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posted on
06/07/2009 3:36:34 PM PDT
by
trumandogz
(The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
To: lewisglad
It’s not so much that they received him, as that they let him remain as he was.
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posted on
06/07/2009 3:36:58 PM PDT
by
RichInOC
(No! BAD Rich! (What'd I say?))
To: mrmeangenes
Again, how is that more pertinent? What makes the murder of Tiller more important than the 60,000 murders Tiller bragged about committing?
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posted on
06/07/2009 3:37:55 PM PDT
by
BykrBayb
(Fight the bastards or perish! ~ Jim Robinson ~ Þ)
To: Radl
...It holds that a choice made for good reasons and in good faith does not separate a human being from God.Hitler thought he had a good reason for killing millions of people. I guess he is with God.
SARCASM OFF!
There, fixed it . . . just in case others didn't get that . . .
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posted on
06/07/2009 3:38:05 PM PDT
by
AUTiger83
(Alabamian by birth, Auburn alum by the grace of God . . .)
To: lewisglad
What Kind of Church Accepts Dr. George Tiller? The ELCA is a natural fit for him.
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posted on
06/07/2009 3:38:55 PM PDT
by
GingisK
To: mrmeangenes
Perhaps a more pertinent question might be: What kind of church embraces and admires Tillers murderer I'm not aware of any. Are you?
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posted on
06/07/2009 3:40:11 PM PDT
by
Minn
(Here is a realistic picture of the prophet: ----> ([: {()
To: GOP_Raider
I would have answered "Unitarian Universalist" but I guess that would have been too obvious? You'd be wrong. It was ELCA, the "I'm OK, you're OK" organization that mistakes itself for Lutheran.
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posted on
06/07/2009 3:40:45 PM PDT
by
GingisK
To: RichInOC
And they held him up as an example to the rest of the congregation.
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posted on
06/07/2009 3:40:52 PM PDT
by
BykrBayb
(Fight the bastards or perish! ~ Jim Robinson ~ Þ)
To: mrmeangenes
Nancy Keenan president of NARAL-Pro-Choice America, said Roeder's comments "continue to escalate that kind of activity, that kind of violence. Quite honestly,
I think it's imperative for anti-choice groups to tone down that rhetoric and keep the more extreme elements in their movement form copying Scott Roeder."
WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME A LEFTY TOLD A LEFTY TO TONE IT DOWN?
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posted on
06/07/2009 3:42:01 PM PDT
by
guitarplayer1953
(Psalm 83:1-8 is on the horizon.)
To: trumandogz
Agreed. I’m just curious why anyone would think the murder of Tiller is somehow even worse than the 60,000 murders Tiller committed.
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posted on
06/07/2009 3:42:59 PM PDT
by
BykrBayb
(Fight the bastards or perish! ~ Jim Robinson ~ Þ)
To: lewisglad
A church that believes the creator endowed human beings with both conscience and intelligence, to enable us to wrestle with the complicated questions. A church that recognizes that one's relationship with that creator can't be dictated by a central authority, or proscribed by a narrow list of rules.Complicated questions? God gave a very simple commandment in the Garden of Eden and man failed the test, egged on by Satan, who always tries to use sophistry, like the defenders of abortion. Similarly, the Pharisees and Sadducees tested Jesus with tricky legalistic questions, and Jesus blew them away by saying there were only 2 commandments: Love God, and love man (since man is made in God's image, the 2nd is really a corollary to the first). Primitive tribesmen, medical science, even abortionists all know that what's in the womb is a human being, and killing it is the taking of innocent life. "You shall not commit murder [i.e. take innocent life]." That's a narrow rule, and it didn't come from any church, but from God himself. He knew what He was doing in making it simple, because he knew sinful man would immediately go looking for loopholes. People can always cook up excuses for sinning, which is what Dr. Tiller's defenders are doing.
To: right way right
The ELCA has trouble. This can't be good for the already moribund, kinda, sorta, semi-religious social club. I'm sure they're are quite a few members around the country that were none too pleased to discover who one of their fellow parishioners was. Or maybe anybody prone to that reaction left along time ago; explaining the moribund status.
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posted on
06/07/2009 3:45:14 PM PDT
by
Minn
(Here is a realistic picture of the prophet: ----> ([: {()
To: lewisglad
"Tiller's church, Reformation Lutheran in Wichita, Kan., is one that trusts its members with the freedom to decide on matters of conscience. It holds that a choice made for good reasons and in good faith does not separate a human being from God."Because everyone is their own little god.
To: woofie
Isnt there something in the bible that says sinners should not go to church?
No there isn't. However, there is 1 Cor. 5 in which Paul handles the issue of the unrepetent sinner in church. "... but it certainly is your responsibility to judge those inside the church who are sinning." 1 Cor. 5:12 (NLT)
To: BykrBayb
Not worse, but illegal and for the time being abortion in legal in this country.
And when abortion is made illegal abortionists and the women who seek abortions will be committing a crime.
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posted on
06/07/2009 3:51:33 PM PDT
by
trumandogz
(The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
To: mrmeangenes
“Perhaps a more pertinent question might be...”
Perhaps you can find some sympathetic columnist arguing in favor of Churches that admonish “a narrow list of rules” in regards to justifying Roeder's murdering act, post that article and your trollish crap would THEN be pertinent to the actual thread at hand. All you looke like is some attention starved toddler trying to change the subjerct in a much incongruous manner.
In the case of Tiller, Christ gave the rules on how to address unrepentant sinners, likewise to Roeder. Any Church embracing those "unrepentants" as well as excusing their actions are deemed damned (Read the first several Ch. of Revelations.
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posted on
06/07/2009 3:52:38 PM PDT
by
rollo tomasi
(Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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