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Police: At least 2 shot inside Holocaust Museum
AP ^ | 6/10/2009

Posted on 06/10/2009 11:24:47 AM PDT by TomOnTheRun

Authorities say at least two people have been shot at the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum in Washington. ---

Update: Tapper & MSNBC are reporting that name of susupect is James Von Brunn, a white supremacist, born 1920.

(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: holocaustmuseum; vonbrunn
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To: Jewbacca
By the way, Ted Pike (yimach shemo vezikhro!) quotes the Talmud in order to blame it for "Jewish pornography," even though "Jewish pornography" is a very recent phenomenon and despite the fact that Jews who participate in the porn industry have probably never read a page of Talmud in their lives.
101 posted on 06/10/2009 12:51:37 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Vayhi binsoa` ha'Aron vayo'mer Mosheh: qumah HaShem veyafutzu 'oyeveykha . . .)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

Oh, I agree.

Still, I wanted the facts to get out before people started reading his crap and taking it at face value.

(Not to mention I encourage a cut-and-paste of my post, without attribution, just to get the real info out there.)


102 posted on 06/10/2009 12:51:39 PM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: Jewbacca

Love your tagline, btw!


103 posted on 06/10/2009 12:52:48 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Vayhi binsoa` ha'Aron vayo'mer Mosheh: qumah HaShem veyafutzu 'oyeveykha . . .)
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To: MadIsh32

I’m not positive (yet) that it will be that long.

Liberals do not actually have a coherent social vision at this time in spite of what most people on here might think. All that can be ensured for the immediate future is that political dialogue will happen inside the liberal tent for as long as we refuse to acknowledge the legitimacy of some debates. That political debate can stray outside their tent at any moment. A 40-50 shutout requires a coherent social vision as well.

We’re pushing them into having one though ;>


104 posted on 06/10/2009 12:54:55 PM PDT by TomOnTheRun
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To: TomOnTheRun

LOL

My fear is the impact of these words

Republican President George W Bush

In particular with people my age (I am 27)


105 posted on 06/10/2009 12:56:44 PM PDT by MadIsh32 (In order to be pro-market, sometimes you must be anti-big business)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

OK. I’ve never heard of it before but I’ll bite. What is Jewish about the pornography aside from whether or not the stars are circumcised? What is the distinctively Jewish nature of this supposed to be?

You say it’s a recent phenomenon so I’ll take your word that this exists someplace outside of paranoid fantasies..


106 posted on 06/10/2009 12:57:20 PM PDT by TomOnTheRun
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To: TomOnTheRun
I think that in 50 years most American conservatives will be looking back on this time with a lot of chagrin about how they chased away the support and votes of LOTS of people that wanted to support them.

Believe it or not, I do not join in much of the moslem bashing on this forum because much of such bashing is based on erroneous liberal western concepts that are actually alien to the Bible (what kind of "philo-Semite" makes fun of people for not eating pork???). Nevertheless, I must point out that American moslems seem to have become happy members of the Grand Leftist Coalition, never taking part in the debates on homosexuality or abortion and instead joining in the attacks on the white chr*stian male "oppressor" for his bigotry and "islamophobia" (a word based on the word "homophobia").

Let some moslems get out and participate in these causes and I will perhaps be more sympathetic.

107 posted on 06/10/2009 12:58:02 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Vayhi binsoa` ha'Aron vayo'mer Mosheh: qumah HaShem veyafutzu 'oyeveykha . . .)
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To: MadIsh32

Oh. Well. You have me there. I’m about 10 years older and conservatives are in the doghouse in this age range as well. We’ve pretty much signed away a generation of people. But that doesn’t have to be that bad or that insurmountable either.

But I take a long view. I ask a lot of questions about this week but I’m not really concerned about anything that takes less than 20-30 years to carry out. A lot can be done in that amount of time.


108 posted on 06/10/2009 1:00:34 PM PDT by TomOnTheRun
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To: TomOnTheRun

I feel you there

I am not even looking at 2010 to be honest. 2012 maybe, depending on how vulnerable the current WH occupant is.

I am hoping by 2016 we have truly come up with a conservative platform for the issues of the 21st century which doesn’t drive people away in large droves (as it did this decade)

If we can do that by 2016, I’ll be more optimistic for the 2020s


109 posted on 06/10/2009 1:03:58 PM PDT by MadIsh32 (In order to be pro-market, sometimes you must be anti-big business)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

I hear you - but I also think we chased a lot of them away. In 2000 Many moslems were JUST beginning to flex political muscles. They had just gotten over being the “untrustworthy other” and were starting to participate in debates about just such things as you mentioned. Then 9/11 happened and the rest is history.

In the meantime I can’t say I blame them for working with Democrats. You work with the people that don’t call you walking extensions of the will of Satan or do darned fool things like hold monthly pig races and hot-dog cookouts next to the new mosque. (NO joke. That happens here in Houston. Katy, TX as well.) Why would they want to work with people that are obnoxious to them? I also worked with Democrats for a while for similar reasons. The local republican party was unwilling to work with me and if I wanted to get ANYTHING done on the local level I had to work with Democrats because single-issue republicans in my area flatly refused to work with me.

Give them space and some quiet respect and maybe more of them will go out and participate in those causes. They are the only reliable opposition to abortion in the UN for example.


110 posted on 06/10/2009 1:08:24 PM PDT by TomOnTheRun
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To: Jewbacca

and the leftist Jewish meme.

Like your tagline.


111 posted on 06/10/2009 1:18:42 PM PDT by dervish (I never saw a wild thing sorry for itself)
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To: TomOnTheRun
I’ve spoken to my neighbors about these sorts of things and I wouldn’t want to be the person tasked with convincing them that Hitler was a Liberal. If anything they associate him more with Nationalism than socialism. If conservatives have been successful at anything in the past 50 years it’s been associating love of Nation with conservatism. Hitler=Ultra-Nationalist=Conservative

I have spent much too much time at the computer today and really need to move on, but I could not do so without saying something in response to this post of yours.

As it happens, I am perhaps the only member of Free Republic who does not consider the Nazis "left wing" based on the very popular but ultimately faulty and dishonest political spectrum promoted by the John Birch Society that insists the far right is anarchist and the far left is totalitarian. This is self-evidently untrue, as there are both totalitarians and anarchists on both sides of the spectrum and the propaganda of "liberty loving" palaeoconservatives often sounds identical to that of totalitarian Nazis. In fact, the anti-Jewish conspiracy theories promoted by both "palaeolibertarians" and Nazis is often identical. And when you add the animus against "private banks" and the Fed with the implied (and sometimes articulated) demand that all financial institutions be nationalized . . . well, what do you call that?

Left and Right are complicated concepts. Neither can be branded solely "individualist" or "collectivist," as there is individualism and collectivism on both sides. The collectivism promoted by the Left, at least traditionally, seems to have been atomistic and horizontal while that of the Right was "organic" and vertical. Leftist collectivism is like quicksand, with each single grain of sand suspended individually, while Rightist collectivism is like coral or fungus. Am I making any sense at all?

But this no longer holds as a hard and steady rule either, since the Left since the end of World War II has been dominated not by the old nineteenth century "workers of the world unite" internationalism, but by "national liberation" Communism, which could just as well be called the Communism of "blood and soil." The focus of the Left since 1945 has not been the domestic working class but the oppressed nations who are victimized not by a domestic capitalist class but by the alien capitalist system of the "foreign devil." This form of Communism conflates all members of the nation with the "oppressed" and, where the old Leftism derided all religion in favor of atheism and "science," now attacks the religion of the "foreign devil" while often defending and celebrating the "indigenous" religious belief. All in all the model for this type of Communism--as I have said, the dominant form since 1945--is not Soviet Russia but World War II-era Japan.

Think about it. The "indigenous pipples?" The American Indian Movement? "La Raza?" And of course the Left's now almost universal love affair with "the Arab nation."

But even whites benefit from this nationalist Communism. The Irish Republican Army is the most obvious example (in fact, as far back as the late nineteenth century Irish Catholics were told that Marxism exempted their religion from critique because of its oppression so that they should feel free to join the Marxist movement with a clear conscience) but there are innumerable others. The "Maoist" Scottish National Liberation Army has vowed to force every "English" person out of Scotland (quite a thing to do when one considers that the Lowland Scots are Angles rather than Celts and have been there just as long as the Gaels if not longer). The Welsh, Bretons, and even the Cornish have also hitched their national wagon to the leftist star, as have the Basques in Spain (along with other nationalist groups in Spain which is, after all, a sort of "united kingdom" dominated by Castille as Britain is dominated by England). Even the French Canadians of Quebec--certainly not an "indigenous people" by any sane person's definition--have enjoyed a left wing nationalism and even a Communist "national liberation movement." In fact, were it not for their implication in the Confederacy, I could see the Cajuns of Louisiana getting a similar movement going, perhaps demanding not only the state of Louisiana as it exists today but the entire Louisiana Purchase Territory ("Restored Socialist Louisiana," perhaps?).

This whole business of basically being a fascist nationalist while getting Commies to fall in love with you sounds like a good deal. I'd like to take advantage of it. Unfortunately, as a "redneck," I am the accursed enemy and will never be given the opportunity.

112 posted on 06/10/2009 1:20:07 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Vayhi binsoa` ha'Aron vayo'mer Mosheh: qumah HaShem veyafutzu 'oyeveykha . . .)
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To: TomOnTheRun; Jewbacca
OK. I’ve never heard of it before but I’ll bite. What is Jewish about the pornography aside from whether or not the stars are circumcised? What is the distinctively Jewish nature of this supposed to be?

"Jewish pornography" merely means porn which secular Jews create or participate in; it has no Jewish theological element. Unfortunately Ted Pike (mach shemo!) has found a debate in the Talmud about whether Jews are culpable for bestiality and from it derived a Talmudic "authorization" on which to blame all Jewish participants of the pornography industry. And btw, the opinion cited was the opinion of one man who was overruled by all others in the debate.

Not being Jewish myself and thus unfamiliar with the Talmud I will refer you to Jewbacca.

113 posted on 06/10/2009 1:26:08 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Vayhi binsoa` ha'Aron vayo'mer Mosheh: qumah HaShem veyafutzu 'oyeveykha . . .)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

Responding quickly hoping to get something out to you before you go ... I need to read this more carefully ... but I think I have some points of agreement with you. Ummm... STRONG agreement. I do believe that current era conservatives are engaged in a lot of willful overlooking of totalitarians and anarchists on both sides of the spectrum ...... I believe this is critical for us to address here and now BEFORE we start growing again. I do find it to be something of a false equation myself. I also merely attempt to avoid talking about it because I’m very busy and I write these things from an iPhone rather than a desktop PC. I look ahead to seeing more of you on these forums.


114 posted on 06/10/2009 1:26:32 PM PDT by TomOnTheRun
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To: TomOnTheRun
In the meantime I can’t say I blame them for working with Democrats. You work with the people that don’t call you walking extensions of the will of Satan

Of course, which is why rednecks are mostly Republican now.

or do darned fool things like hold monthly pig races and hot-dog cookouts next to the new mosque. (NO joke. That happens here in Houston. Katy, TX as well.) Why would they want to work with people that are obnoxious to them? I also worked with Democrats for a while for similar reasons. The local republican party was unwilling to work with me and if I wanted to get ANYTHING done on the local level I had to work with Democrats because single-issue republicans in my area flatly refused to work with me.

Though I am a fanatical Republican whose Republicanism goes all the way back to the Civil War--and who therefore maintains a hatred of the Democrat party that most people today would not be able to understand--I can understand what you are saying, though I am surprised at your remark about "single issue" Republicans.

The fact is that most so-called "single issues" are anything but. We live in a country and at a time where, based on a politician's position on one single issue, one may almost without error deduce his position on every other issue. For example, if one believes in affirmative action for Black Americans, he is almost sure to be in favor of "gay rights," and if he is an advocate of "the right to life," he is almost surely to be a dogmatic Randian "root hog or die" capitalist.

While, as a repentant ex-Bircher, I am no fan of conspiracy theory, there is nonetheless something very strange in all this creating and prolonging of enmities among people that is very Hegelian. I don't suppose you read my post from yesterday comparing American politics to pro wrestling?

115 posted on 06/10/2009 1:31:40 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Vayhi binsoa` ha'Aron vayo'mer Mosheh: qumah HaShem veyafutzu 'oyeveykha . . .)
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To: TomOnTheRun
I look ahead to seeing more of you on these forums.

Thanks. I've been here ten years.

Be aware that you aren't going to like everything I write, as I'm totally pro-Jewish and pro-Israel, as well as a Noachide and an avowed Theocrat (one reason I don't hit moslems over the head with Thomas Jefferson).

116 posted on 06/10/2009 1:33:38 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Vayhi binsoa` ha'Aron vayo'mer Mosheh: qumah HaShem veyafutzu 'oyeveykha . . .)
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To: Jewbacca
About 10 years ago I attended a two-week long seminar on Judaism taught at a local synagogue by its “para-rabbi.” It was striking to me, a Christian, how Jews (according to the instructor) didn't really have a beef with Jesus or his original apostles however Paul came under particular scrutiny.
I assumed that it was because that early Christianity in its orginal form was in reality a Jewish sect until his appeal to Gentiles in allowing a general disregard of the Talmud.
The para-rabbi noted that Jesus's famed "Sermon on the Mount" was exactly what a Jewish Rabbi would have preached at the time and, as we went through the course and history, I learned of the true roots of my own faith.
The hardest thing for me to grasp was G-d's instruction to Israel to execute the Herem, in demanding that everything be put to death. But I realized that He did it because he did not want the ancient Israelites to take booty of any kind--no women, slaves, nor cattle, sheep or treasure. I also realized that had it been done as He instructed instead of disregarded (Saul, etc.) that present-day Israel might not today face enemies on all sides.
117 posted on 06/10/2009 1:33:50 PM PDT by meandog (Doh!)
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To: Zionist Conspirator; TomOnTheRun

I have no idea how Pike gets there. There are lots of very confusing things in the Talmud, but it is logical.

I operate by two rules:

(1) if it doesn’t make sense, you’re reading it wrong and

(2) I don’t try to think like a crazy person; it can make you crazy. Ergo, I don’t care how Pike gets there.


118 posted on 06/10/2009 1:35:35 PM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: TomOnTheRun
Here's my "American politics as pro-wrestling" post.
119 posted on 06/10/2009 1:37:22 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Vayhi binsoa` ha'Aron vayo'mer Mosheh: qumah HaShem veyafutzu 'oyeveykha . . .)
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To: TomOnTheRun
Give them space and some quiet respect

Sure, right after they repudiate their murderous barbaric religion.

Would you give quiet respect to a member of the Thuggee strangler cult? Would you give quiet respect to an Aztec cannibal priest of Tlaloc?

Islam is right up there with those two in its hatred of infidels and murderous intentions towards you (the infidel).

120 posted on 06/10/2009 1:49:39 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (Out of gas become a pill box, Out of ammo become a bunker, Out of hope become a hero.)
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