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1 posted on 06/13/2009 12:51:57 AM PDT by Cindy
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Note: I would print out the “fact sheet” here, but clicking on the fact sheet link I get error code “404.”


2 posted on 06/13/2009 12:54:58 AM PDT by Cindy
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If The First Thug says “saves $300 billion”, that means it will cost $300 billion more. He simply doesn’t know jack sh—.


4 posted on 06/13/2009 12:58:55 AM PDT by kromike
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oh yeah I saved $800 Billion by switching to Geico


5 posted on 06/13/2009 1:00:46 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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I'm reminded of the headline about Jimmy Carter:

MORE MUSH FROM THE WIMP

6 posted on 06/13/2009 1:01:36 AM PDT by Darkwolf377
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Note: The following post is a quote:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2270819/posts

Wrong-Way Health Care ‘Reform’ Could Actually Increase Spending
IBD Editorials ^ | June 12, 2009 | ROBERT SAMUELSON
Posted on June 12, 2009 6:18:39 PM PDT by Kaslin

It’s hard to know whether President Obama’s health care “reform” is naive, hypocritical or simply dishonest. Probably all three.

The president keeps saying it’s imperative to control runaway health spending. He’s right. The trouble is that what’s being promoted as health care “reform” almost certainly won’t suppress spending and, quite probably, will do the opposite.

A new report from Obama’s own Council of Economic Advisers shows why controlling health costs is so important. Since 1975, annual health spending per person, adjusted for inflation, has grown 2.1 percentage points faster than overall economic growth per person. Should this trend continue, the CEA projects that:

Health spending, which was 5% of gross domestic product in 1960 and is reckoned at almost 18% today, would grow to 34% of GDP by 2040 — a third of the economy.

Medicare and Medicaid, the government insurance programs for the elderly and poor, would increase from 6% of GDP now to 15% in 2040 — roughly equal to three-quarters of present federal spending.

Too Much Medicine

Employer-paid insurance premiums for family coverage, which grew 85% in inflation-adjusted terms from 1996 to $11,941 in 2006, would increase to $25,200 by 2025 and $45,000 in 2040 (all figures in “constant 2008 dollars”). The huge costs would force employers to reduce take-home pay.

The message in these dismal figures is that uncontrolled health spending is almost single-handedly determining national priorities. It’s reducing discretionary income, raising taxes, widening budget deficits and squeezing other government programs.

Worse, much medical spending is wasted, the CEA report says. It doesn’t improve Americans’ health; some care is unneeded or ineffective.

(Excerpt) Read more at ibdeditorials.com ...


9 posted on 06/13/2009 1:13:17 AM PDT by Cindy
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“These savings will come from commonsense changes. For example...If the drug makers pay their fair share...”

THIS IS NONSENSE. DRUG COMPANIES SPEND BILLIONS DEVELOPING NEW DRUGS AND ONLY A HANDFUL BECOME SUCCESSFUL. HAVEN’T YOU TAKEN AWAY THEIR TAX INCENTIVES, MR. PRESIDENT?

“...And if doctors have incentives to provide the best care instead of more care, we can help Americans avoid the unnecessary hospital stays, treatments, and tests that drive up costs.”

IN OTHER WORDS, SECOND GUESS THE DIAGNOSIS. BUT DOCTORS DO ALL THAT TESTING TO KEEP FROM BEING SUED BY THE FAMILIES OF DEAD PATIENTS. SO, ARE YOU GOING TO MAKE IT ILLEGAL TO FILE A LAWSUIT AGAINST A GOVT. PHYSICIAN, PRESIDENT OBAMA?


10 posted on 06/13/2009 1:13:26 AM PDT by SatinDoll (NO Foreign Nationals as our President!!)
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We need to fight this with all we’ve got. It’s all lies about “saving.” It’s all taking away from the freedom of doctors and patients. And there is no way we can afford “free” medical care.


17 posted on 06/13/2009 1:29:55 AM PDT by Yaelle
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http://cnsnews.com/public/content/article.aspx?RsrcID=49481

“Congressional Republicans Speak Out against Obama’s Plan for Government-Owned Health Care”
Friday, June 12, 2009
By Matt Cover

SNIPPET: “Washington (CNSNews.com) - Republican leaders in both the House and Senate voiced opposition Thursday to the Obama administration’s plan to establish a government-run health insurance entity, saying it makes no sense to give government control over health care.

House Minority Leader Rep. John Boehner (R-Ohio) said that House Republicans were against Obama’s idea, “period.” Boehner said that any American who does not want their doctor’s office to be run like the Department of Motor Vehicles should oppose the plan, too.

“I’m opposed to the government option, period,” Boehner said at his weekly press conference Thursday. “If you like going to the DMV and you think they do a great job, or if you like going to the post office and think it’s the most efficient thing you’ve run into, then you’ll love the government-run health care system, because that’s basically what you’re going to have.””


20 posted on 06/13/2009 1:34:56 AM PDT by Cindy
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we can help Americans avoid the unnecessary hospital stays, treatments, and tests that drive up costs.
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P*ss off stupid Kenyan, we all know what that means.


21 posted on 06/13/2009 1:45:55 AM PDT by mojitojoe (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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we can help Americans avoid the unnecessary hospital stays, treatments, and tests that drive up costs.

oh yeah, we check into the hospital for unnecessary stays at least once a month and the hospital lets us. /s.

what world is Zero living in? seriously. And just whom is going to determine what is necessary versus unnecessary? My 77yo dad is a retired career vet. His govt-provided hmo insurance just doubled in the last 2 years. Retirement check deducted. And trying to get his doctor to admit him to the hospital for anything is like pulling teeth! We get a letter once in a while telling Dad what tests to go in for, and a letter afterwards telling us the test results. Haven't laid eyes on his primary care physician in 2 years and counting. And Zero wants me to have this same 'coverage' ???? ya..NO !

22 posted on 06/13/2009 1:49:13 AM PDT by blueplum
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Utter, bare-faced BS, all soon to be parroted by the Kool Aid drinkers at the Ministry of Propaganda, otherwise known as the MSM. Knowledge is Ignorance in the new socialist Superstate, and Big Brother will monitor your reaction to insure the appropriate level of enthusiastic credulity.

The nation is sinking under a mountain of debt, which will soon multiply into a mountain range, out from under which the children and grandchildren of today’s voters will never even hope to dig themselves.


24 posted on 06/13/2009 2:00:41 AM PDT by Jack Hammer (here)
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ZERO = ZERO


25 posted on 06/13/2009 2:28:31 AM PDT by Check6
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The savings will be realized by denying medical aid to White folks...

It’s really that simple and that easy..
CHUMPS.


26 posted on 06/13/2009 2:41:54 AM PDT by river rat (Semper Fi - You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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If the AMA don’t agree with Obama’s health plan you know it has to suck.


27 posted on 06/13/2009 2:49:08 AM PDT by Vaduz
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28 posted on 06/13/2009 2:53:18 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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Without reading the article, I can outline the typical tree easy Beltway steps:
1. I will spend $1 Billion
2. Ok, make that $700 Million
3. Look, I saved $300 Million!!


30 posted on 06/13/2009 3:37:12 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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Any cuts in the federal budget are heading for Obama & Company’s pockets.


32 posted on 06/13/2009 4:08:27 AM PDT by M. Espinola (Freedom is not 'free'.)
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He’ll increase the medicare budget by $600 billion and then cut it $300 billion and claim he saved $300 billion...

Never mind that medicare still increased by $300 billion...

That’s exactly what he did with federal budget.

And the morons in the press went right along with it...


33 posted on 06/13/2009 4:11:54 AM PDT by DB
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34 posted on 06/13/2009 4:23:44 AM PDT by Beckwith (A "natural born citizen" -- two American citizen parents and born in the USA.)
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President Obama Outlines More than $300 Billion in new Medicare and Medicaid Savings

At first I had read that as "million", rather than "Billion", and was losing all respect for the man.

36 posted on 06/13/2009 4:36:33 AM PDT by The Duke (I have met the enemy, and he is named 'Apathy'!)
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