[muawiyah]

Help? Did I say Help?

Nothing goes in NK that the Chicoms don't know about or control.

Remember, the Chicoms are about "discipline" and protection for themselves.

They don't need to become a superpower.

[mysterio]

Remember, the Chicoms are about "discipline" and protection for themselves.

They are about power and worldwide respect.

They don't need to become a superpower.

Correct. They need to become the superpower. NK lobbing nukes at Hawaii does not advance that goal in any way. Therefore, it won't happen.