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To: Jack Black
...it would be these various federalized police forces that would htake the lead in putting down the citizen rebellion.

After a career in the LE profession and knowing some of the players at Waco, I agree with you wholeheartedly. They are "militarized" true enough, but as you witnessed in Waco, when faced by a determined group defending their territory, they can be severely damaged and weakened. Although well armed and equipped they are not as disciplined as trained infantry.

Yeah, and be burned alive you may say. But then again, they were trapped within their own walls and surrounded, always a bad thing. But remember also how they withstood so much. BTW, I asked folks that had access to "show the illegal weapons or evidence of", to my knowledge I don't believe any evidence was presented. If any good FReepers have links to that evidence I would sure appreciate it, I've been embarrassed before!

Janet Reno screeched that there was "child abuse going on!". Sure was, apparently inflicted by various agencies surrounding the "compound". But, the good sheriff of McClennon County had already investigated those charges and also complaints of possible illegal weapons, he had done his job well but nobody was interested.

Determined American citizens have an incredible ability to organize quickly and effectively and, as experience develops become very effective.

122 posted on 06/22/2009 5:21:55 PM PDT by brushcop (SFC Sallie, CPL Long, LTHarris, SSG Brown, PVT Simmons KIA OIF lll&V, they died for you, honor them)
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To: brushcop

” They are “militarized” true enough, but as you witnessed in Waco, when faced by a determined group defending their territory, they can be severely damaged and weakened.”

Many people noticed that. About 20 minutes into the firefight, the ATF surrendered to the women and children in the building at Waco and walked away with their hands in the air. Same thing happened in the LA riots. When confronted with a mob throwing bricks and bottles, the cops got in their cars and drove home.


125 posted on 06/22/2009 6:44:44 PM PDT by sergeantdave (obuma is the anti-Lincoln, trying to re-establish slavery)
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To: brushcop
Janet Reno screeched that there was "child abuse going on!".

Even if, for the sake of discussion, if that was true, since when are tax-collectors the preferred agents to be used in ending child abuse?

148 posted on 06/23/2009 8:20:44 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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