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The Deflating Bubble
Mises Institute ^ | 6/22/2009 | Doug French

Posted on 06/22/2009 6:28:41 PM PDT by sickoflibs

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The Peter Schiff/Redistribution Watch Ping. (Washington Bankrupting our Nation by Spending your past, present and future money!)

If you realize both parties in Washington think our money is theirs and you trust them to do the wrong thing, this list is for you.

If you think there is a Santa Claus who is going to get elected in Washington and cut a few taxes and spend a few trillion and jump start the economy, and get our lost money back, this list is not for you.

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1 posted on 06/22/2009 6:28:42 PM PDT by sickoflibs
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The one really big bankruptcy that isn't mentioned here is the federal gov’t. Not only do we not have enough to pay for current liabilities we are borrowing to pay the debt.

We are in for some very hard times my friends.

2 posted on 06/22/2009 6:41:28 PM PDT by vets son
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Isn’t Schiff preaching hyperinflation, not deflation, as this article lays out?


3 posted on 06/22/2009 6:43:36 PM PDT by Cooter
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The Peter Schiff/Redistribution Watch Ping. (Washington Bankrupting our Nation by Spending your past, present and future money!)
4 posted on 06/22/2009 6:44:50 PM PDT by sickoflibs (Socialist Conservatives: "'Big government is free because tax cuts pay for it'")
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"And the residential meltdown is nowhere close to being over. There is reportedly a million-house overhang in the market nationwide. But misguided attempts by government are keeping home prices from correcting to affordable levels. "If an investor could purchase a home and rent it out for close to breakeven," real-estate broker Mike Morgan writes in Barron's, "we might be getting close to the bottom. But we are nowhere close to that level in most critical markets."

That's called: deflation.

5 posted on 06/22/2009 6:51:25 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: vets son

If only we could print some more money, everything would be okay. Reminds of that skit on Saturday Night Live, when Jimmy Carter introduced his plan to end poverty. The answer was simple, he was going to make everyone a millionaire. In Zimbabwe, everyone is already a trillionaire. Maybe we could make everyone in the US a quadrillionaire.


6 posted on 06/22/2009 6:52:46 PM PDT by appeal2 (Government is not the solution, it is the problem and eventually the enemy.)
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To: sickoflibs

Bump for later re-read.


7 posted on 06/22/2009 6:53:38 PM PDT by Senator_Blutarski (No good deed goes unpunished.)
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RE :”Isn’t Schiff preaching hyperinflation, not deflation, as this article lays out?

Hyperinflation for certain things is from based on falling dollar. Inflation in the 1970s led to a bust for US in early 1980s. From above:”The folks at Grant's estimate the federal response to the current downturn to be 12 greater than that to the Great Depression, which prolonged that recovery for a decade. However, all of this government intervention will only spawn new malinvestments and later depressions.

8 posted on 06/22/2009 6:54:15 PM PDT by sickoflibs (Socialist Conservatives: "'Big government is free because tax cuts pay for it'")
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To: sickoflibs

The Great Depression was deflationary, not inflationary.


9 posted on 06/22/2009 6:55:52 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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But what about oil, energy and food prices, and metals? Gasoline and food hardly looks like deflation rising with demand dropping.


10 posted on 06/22/2009 6:58:38 PM PDT by sickoflibs (Socialist Conservatives: "'Big government is free because tax cuts pay for it'")
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“Deflation” is how the markets punish surplusses. We don’t have surplusses in everything, particularly oil and food, however.

But the world has too many houses. Too many factories. Too many shopping malls. Too many cargo ships. Too many airlines.

Where there are surplusses, expect falling prices. Like salaries. See, we have too many jobs worldwide compared to demand.


11 posted on 06/22/2009 7:02:15 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: sickoflibs; ex-Texan

In addition to Circuit City, Sharper Image, Goody’s, Gottschalk’s, Comp USA, Levitz Furniture, Chrysler & GM a number of the major banks should be on that list, if it were not for the tax-funded bailouts (give-a-ways).

One bank in particular, Goldman Sachs, is again issuing mega-bonuses for Sach’s top CEOs, (who already scammed bailout funds) likely in part this time with tax money they have no right to.


12 posted on 06/22/2009 7:13:30 PM PDT by M. Espinola (Freedom is not 'free'.)
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To: Southack
The Great Depression was deflationary, not inflationary.

True. And this will be too, until the currency crisis hits. Which given how this govt borrows, that could happen at any time now.

13 posted on 06/22/2009 7:27:38 PM PDT by NeoCaveman (has created or saved 150,000 posts, sure.)
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The Deflating Bubble
Mises Institute ^ | 6/22/2009 | Doug French


14 posted on 06/22/2009 7:28:41 PM PDT by NeoCaveman (has created or saved 150,000 posts, sure.)
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To: Southack

***Where there are surplusses, expect falling prices.***

Bernanke doesn’t like deflation. The other side of that equation is the money supply and Bernanke has great control over that.

***See, we have too many jobs worldwide compared to demand.***

Demand is unlimited. You can never have too many jobs, only jobs in the wrong sectors.


15 posted on 06/22/2009 7:47:45 PM PDT by djsherin (Government is essentially the negation of liberty.)
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Celente Predicts Super Depression 2012
16 posted on 06/22/2009 7:54:46 PM PDT by blam
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"Demand is unlimited. You can never have too many jobs, only jobs in the wrong sectors."

Nope. Demand is limited by those who want to pay for jobs...fewer and fewer each day.

Where job demand is unlimited is on the recieving end of the checks...not on the paying side.

17 posted on 06/22/2009 7:59:10 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: blam

12 Ways To Prepare For The Next Great Depression

18 posted on 06/22/2009 7:59:20 PM PDT by blam
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To: Southack

To say demand is not unlimited is to say that people’s wants and desires are not unlimited, which is false. Demand is restrained by income, but it is unlimited.

Given the income restraint, people decide what they want to produce (in order to consume, or “trade” for consumption) to maximize utility. Given that demand is unlimited and that it can only be satisfied by production, there can never be too many jobs in a free market. Given government intervention, there can be too many jobs in specific sectors (malinvestment) which requires a period of readjustment to correct, but not too many jobs in general.

***Where job demand is unlimited is on the recieving end of the checks...not on the paying side.***

Just as the worker wants as much purchasing power as possible and the employer wants to pay out as little as possible, so too does the employer want as much work from labor as possible and the worker wants to give as little as possible.


19 posted on 06/22/2009 8:20:34 PM PDT by djsherin (Government is essentially the negation of liberty.)
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But what about oil, energy and food prices, and metals?

According to Harry S Dent, there will be a commodities bubble - the last to pop before the depression.

20 posted on 06/22/2009 8:21:50 PM PDT by Cooter
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