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Sarah Palin For President
Macleans ^ | July 2, 2009 | John Parisella

Posted on 07/02/2009 9:30:03 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Sounds far-fetched and, to some, totally implausible. But the Republicans are losing potential candidates at a pace that is downright alarming if you believe in a healthy two-party system. The demise of John Ensign’s political career a few weeks ago and the surreal downfall of Mark Sanford last week is enough to send chills through the even the most optimistic Republican strategist. We know that of the 2008 crop, only Mitt Romney seems likely to stay on as a contender. The old stalwarts like Newt Gingrich may get a lot of press, but it is unlikely they can mount a real challenge to Obama in 2012. Yet, the presidential election of 2012 will be more than a simple coronation of Barack Obama if the economy stalls and there is no progress in two important areas: national security and healthcare.

Ballooning deficits and a sluggish economy could alter the mood of America by the time the 2010 mid-terms come up, giving hope to the GOP for the next presidential primary season. This is why Sarah Palin is maintaining a persistent media presence, whether it is debating David Letterman or being the biggest Republican draw on the lecture circuit. She clearly has her eyes set on the presidency.

The latest edition of Vanity Fair brings this possibility forward, though not in a favourable light. Journalist Todd Purdhom paints a picture of a woman with a narcissistic personality, who’s short on knowledge, disinterested in policy discussion, and not ready for primetime. In the end, the story says more about John McCain’s competence and character than it does about Palin, simply because he flubbed his most important decision as a presidential candidate. That said, Palin brought much needed energy to an otherwise lackluster campaign and, to this day, she energizes the base as no other candidate can. Could it be possible she may someday be a candidate for the presidency?

My experience tells me that no one should be written off in a hypothetical context. Barack Obama is proof positive of this. I still maintain that, without Bush, there is no Obama nomination. Palin is a street smart politician who has benefited from being underestimated most of her career. McCain’s disastrous choice may have been fatal to his electoral chances, but it brought Palin to the forefront of national attention. Since then, she has become a celebrity that transcends her party. However, if she is to be taken seriously and considered a viable contender, she needs to change the negative perceptions of her and develop a political profile that appeals to those outside her narrow base.

To do this, she must gradually reduce her exposure and begin to educate herself on the issues. She will not be ready for 2012 by remaining governor of Alaska and playing the celebrity. The GOP has too proud a tradition to have a re-run of the 2008 vice-presidential candidate. Also, the base Palin relies on for support no longer holds the sway it once did. Social conservatism is losing steam as a political movement thanks to the dubious habits of people like Gingrich, Ensign and Sanford, and the election of an African-American president as well as the increased attention paid to gay rights issues shows that Americans have begun to cast their old divisions aside. The future for the GOP lies with fiscal conservatism and strong national security policy—not with turning back the clock. Palin must embrace the values that created the Republican party in the first place—a belief in the individual, a belief in a limited role for the state, and a commitment to equality. The party of Lincoln, Teddy Roosevelt, Eisenhower, and (the pragmatic version of) Reagan is the path to a Republican resurgence. Palin is nowhere on that radar. She is all about celebrity status and controversy.

In the lead-up to July 4, Americans usually reflect on their great democracy. Overall, it is healthy and has shown resilience through the decades. But the Republicans have to become a viable alternative for this democracy to remain vibrant. So is Palin a real possibility for 2012 or 2016? Will she someday be a formal candidate for the presidency? Most definitely. But can she ever win? Based on what we have observed so far, I would say definitely not, though politics has been known to produce some strange developments.


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To: SoCalPol

Didnt you say once that the San Diego Zoo is about 10 miles from you ???

Just sayin’

:)


101 posted on 07/02/2009 10:40:06 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: SoCalPol

John McCain’s son serves in the military too.
So did he, and his father and his father before him.
Barack 0bama has never served in the military, but maybe some of his family in Kenya has.

I don’t see how that has any bearing on a candidates electability.
Clinton was a notorious draft dodger and he defeated two war heroes.
Dan Rather tried the military service attack on George W. Bush when he ran against John Kerry (D-Vietnam), and it failed.
And most certainly if it doesn’t matter that Sarah Palin’s underage daughter got pregnant, then it doesn’t matter that her son is in the military.

How does what her children do (either of them) have any bearing on her?
Ronald Reagan’s son was a ballerina. What does that say about the Gipper?


102 posted on 07/02/2009 10:40:45 PM PDT by counterpunch (In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem. Government is the problem.)
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To: SoConPubbie
McCain/Palin lost because McCain's position's on the issues were mostly left-of-center and did not provide a contrast to the other ticket, just a Democrat-Lite version.

That is exactly it...conservatives need to quit trying to compete with liberals and provide an alternative vision....not a "Lite" version of the same thing...when will they learn...:(

103 posted on 07/02/2009 10:40:46 PM PDT by Niteflyr ("Just because something is free doesn't mean it's good for you".)
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To: counterpunch

There is a simple answer for you, counterpunch. Some people who would have voted for Sarah Palin alone would never vote for her with McCain at the top of the ticket. He was too much of a RINO. McCain stabbed so many people in the back that it did not matter to them who was on the ticket running with him. They would never vote for McCain.

I keep hearing people saying there is plenty of time for an unknown candidate to come up. I guess they are hoping for a Bill Clinton. Because the truth is the only candidate we will be able to get who is at all conservative with any name power is Sarah Palin. Unless this unknown makes him or herself known very soon, a conservative will not have the time to become known. The MSM will make sure of it and if they do become known you can rest assured that the media will tear them apart as viciously as they have gone after Sarah.

The only ones they will leave alone are RINOs, the ones like Romney whom they like so much. But Romney and Huckabee both have particular problems, they are both RINOs and they are both the reason we had McCain as a candidate. If anyone brings the voters feelings of deja vu, it is either of these two RINOs. We have already been there and done that with them. Everyone knows they are RINOs and no one in there own party wanted either of them enough for them to win against a backstabbing lunatic.

Sarah won’t have that problem.


104 posted on 07/02/2009 10:41:16 PM PDT by Waryone (If the democrats paid taxes like the rest of us, the United States wouldn't have a deficit.)
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To: counterpunch

Americans have purged their white guilt. Obama won’t run again. Even dems will desert him after ‘10 losses for fear of their jobs because we’ll be in one hell of a mess by then on ALL fronts.

We’ll be begging for common sense and Sarah’s got it. There may be others like Sanf.....uh..Jindahl, Perry, etc. Sarah will have more seasoning, more maturity to her policies but she’s got common sense, integrity and the ability to light up the room (and conservatives) like I’ve never seen. Palin also has been innoculated from state run media and now has the courage to tell ‘em to buzz off. She could add glamour to Reaganism. She will talk right past the media like RR did, but with even more sizzle.

Beat that all you America hating Dems.


105 posted on 07/02/2009 10:41:50 PM PDT by chiller (almost speechless)
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To: SoConPubbie

Palin had her chance against 0bama. End of story.
Lets start looking now for someone who might have a chance of beating him.


106 posted on 07/02/2009 10:42:08 PM PDT by counterpunch (In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem. Government is the problem.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Why are there so many people Outside who are so EAGER to give Governor Palin advice on how to be a politician? Everybody seems to have all this "insight" into her and her electability.

Do they do this for the male candidates? Not so often, I would say. Most of them have the idea that she is a backward hillbilly, who doesn't have brains enough to pour p*ss out of a boot with the instructions written on the heel. Is THAT why they selected her as McCain's running mate? Because they were convinced she was Emmett Kelly in drag and would turn McCain's campaign into a circus? I think Sarah Palin is capable of choosing her own advisors, making her own decisions, and bringing herself up to date on the things that are important. I think they are afraid they won't be able to corrupt her.

107 posted on 07/02/2009 10:43:36 PM PDT by redhead (Obama: Lame Duck in 2010. Check out the Half-baked Sourdough! (shameless blog plug!))
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To: chiller
Americans have purged their white guilt.

I sure hope you are right...I know I'm purged of it. And that is the only reason we have BO in the WH....let's face it....

108 posted on 07/02/2009 10:43:51 PM PDT by Niteflyr ("Just because something is free doesn't mean it's good for you".)
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To: spikeytx86
Remember, in 92, most top tier candidates in the Democratic party decided not to run for President since they decided it was virtually impossible to defeat Bush Sr. in November. Who did they eventually nominate? The three term Womanizing Governor from Arkansas with more baggage then a Coach Outlet who almost had to be dragged off the stage at the 88’ Democratic Convention and received his only applause that night when he finally stopped talking and left. He was the “Trailer Trash” candidate. He took on the incumbent who just finished prosecuting a successful and stunning victory against Iraq whose approval ratings were over 90% for a good period of 91. And this “bubba” from Arkansas ended up not only wining, but gave the best Electoral Showing for the Democrats in a Presidential Race since Johnson in 64’.

Clinton never would have won if it hadn't been for that munchkin Ross Perot.

109 posted on 07/02/2009 10:44:22 PM PDT by America2012 (No Taxation By An Obamanation)
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To: redhead
I think Sarah Palin is capable of choosing her own advisors, making her own decisions, and bringing herself up to date on the things that are important.

I hope I didn't come off that way...but I think it's good to surround yourself with good people though...:o)

110 posted on 07/02/2009 10:45:40 PM PDT by Niteflyr ("Just because something is free doesn't mean it's good for you".)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; All

Let’s think about this guys. Why is Sarah, suddenly, once again the front page news item? Because she won 72% on a recent straw poll. Every since that poll the left(and the beltway RINOs)have gone into a feeding frenzy about her. I would say the RINOs are the worst ones of the two right now, what with the Vanity Fair BS. It all boils down to fear, fear from the left that she will smash Bozo the WH clown and fear from the RINOs that they will lose their equally corrupt grip on the right. It is no big secret, it just takes a little insight into the way crooked politicians, both dimwits and RINOs, think.


111 posted on 07/02/2009 10:45:50 PM PDT by calex59
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To: deannadurbin
True but it makes it tougher when the candidate herself / himself gives them ready ammunition, like blanking out on specific questions in a high profile interview, winking at the audience during national televised debates and doing an “aw shucks” or “say it ain’t so” routine, etc. Same thing happened with Jindal’s response to Obama. His profile dropped like lead after he gave a rather schoolboyish rebuttal.

I say whoever the male candidate is in 2012 let Sarah be vice president nominee to bring in that homespun heartland vote. However in today’s world you HAVE to get the Reagan Democrats and many of them won’t vote for someone like Sarah whom the mainstream media constantly portrays as dumb.


You are still missing the point.

Every candidate has their gotcha moments.

Nobody, and I mean nobody, either from the left or the right or the center does not stumble in some high-profile manner during their political career.

That animal does not exist so your concern is rather useless concerning Sarah and maybe even insincere, but I hope that is not the case.

The media will leave the gaffes of the candidates they want to win alone, see the 57 states comment by Obama and other statements that got absolutely no airtime and also the numerous gaffes by McCain, and Mitt and Rudy that got relatively a lot less airtime than gaffes by conservative like Reagan and Sarah.

Like I said before, we need a fighting conservative that is not going to play the get-along games that the other so-called conservatives are fond of playing hoping to neutralize the media and moderates in our own party.

We need somebody who is going to hit back hard like Sarah does on a regular basis.

Somebody who is going to stand their ground and fight for what is right, not stick their finger in the wind to try and find the sweet spot on the issues where they think they will get the most votes.

In short, we need a principled conservative willing to fight like hell!

That conservative is Sarah!
112 posted on 07/02/2009 10:46:27 PM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: counterpunch

John Thune

http://thune.senate.gov/public/


113 posted on 07/02/2009 10:47:22 PM PDT by deannadurbin
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To: SoConPubbie
Care to back up that unsubstantiated opinion with some facts?

Both Fred Barnes and Charles Krauthammer recently lamented that Palin has spent all her time since the election running around like a celebrity, picking fights with talk show hosts, and accepting plaudits from her adoring public, and no time whatsoever brainstorming with and learning from nationally known, qualified people on the challenges facing the nation in foreign affairs, the economy, and the drearier quarters of public policy. In other words, she's all glitter and ambition and no substance, and she's not doing the work necessary to become substantive. And, unlike dear old George, she has a noticeable Coulteresque mean streak, but without Coulter's smarts.

She is not qualified. We just had an unqualified Republican president. We don't need another one.

114 posted on 07/02/2009 10:47:25 PM PDT by beckett (Amor Fati)
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To: counterpunch
It wasn’t her fault he lost, but the theory that she could attract enough votes to beat Barack 0bama was tested, and it failed. By nearly 10 million votes and 10 points, no less. If she was the only thing making John McCain competitive, she sure didn’t do a good job. They lost in a certified landslide.

Since when did the term "landslide" start to be used on electoral victories in the 7% range?

And since when did the choice of a VP make that much difference for a candidate? Before 2008, the consensus was that it didn't make that much difference. But now, suddenly, Palin was the reason McCain lost? If you maintain that, you are an absolute idiot. Palin only cost McCain votes he was never going to get anyway--the beltway and northeastern elites.

All I can say is one thing--there were a lot of conservatives I know personally who were all set not to vote for McCain. I was one of them if he had chosen Mitt Romney as his VP. Because of the choice of Sarah Palin, I voted for McCain and was able to convince many others to do likewise.

She did make a difference in 2008 and it was very positive.
115 posted on 07/02/2009 10:47:51 PM PDT by Antoninus (Queer is boring.)
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To: counterpunch
Palin had her chance against 0bama. End of story. Lets start looking now for someone who might have a chance of beating him.

No, once again, McCain, the presidential candidate, had his chance against Obama.

Sarah's chance is coming in 2012.
116 posted on 07/02/2009 10:48:05 PM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: SoCalPol

We’ve had missiles that could hit the US in 20 minutes since the 1950s.
It was called the Cold War.

I’m sure there are plenty of GOP candidates who understand international security issues, and a lot more, too. Much better than Palin, I would think.

It’s a bit early to be doubling down on Palin, don’t you think?
We don’t even know who will be running in 2012.
I’m sure there will be a large field, as always.
Let’s see who is running and how they do in the debates before we go double or nothing with Palin against 0bama.


117 posted on 07/02/2009 10:48:21 PM PDT by counterpunch (In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem. Government is the problem.)
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To: calex59
ear from the left that she will smash Bozo the WH clown and fear from the RINOs that they will lose their equally corrupt grip on the right. It is no big secret, it just takes a little insight into the way crooked politicians, both dimwits and RINOs, think.

Yep when I think of her I think of Mr Smith Goes To Washington....and that movie never mentioned parties... she's an outsider....and the Libs and RINO's hate her for that...

118 posted on 07/02/2009 10:48:45 PM PDT by Niteflyr ("Just because something is free doesn't mean it's good for you".)
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To: SoCalPol

“I will be first in line to vote for gov. Palin.”

Sorry Charley. The best you can do is second. I’m going to Florida to vote...


119 posted on 07/02/2009 10:49:35 PM PDT by babygene
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To: counterpunch
It’s a bit early to be doubling down on Palin, don’t you think? We don’t even know who will be running in 2012.

Not doubling down....just sayin'...:o)

120 posted on 07/02/2009 10:49:47 PM PDT by Niteflyr ("Just because something is free doesn't mean it's good for you".)
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