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To: counterpunch

My thoughts exactly and I like her. I know plenty of Dems who would never vote for Palin, period. I also know plenty of Rep who still think she’s the problem with the party. If Palin can’t get the Republicans to vote for her then how is she to get the moderate Dems to vote for her so she has a chance of winning in 2012?

She doesn’t have the tools to do this.


48 posted on 07/02/2009 9:58:24 PM PDT by repubpub
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To: repubpub
I don't recall the Establishment of the GOP being to thrilled about Reagan wining the nomination in 80’ (heads exploding comes to mind), and many Democrats believed he was nothing more then a moron actor whose strings were pulled by his fat cat masters and who would ultimately destroy the whole world and bring about Armageddon.

Yet he won in a landslide.

The fact of the matter is, The Presidential Election of 2012 is not going to be about the Republican Nominee, it is going to be an referendum on Obama, like most Presidential Campaigns against an incumbent are. If the Public has soured on Obama’s policies enough by then, it will be hard for him to remain in office regardless of whom we nominate. But if the economy has recovered and it appears that Obama’s policies are working, it will be near impossible to remove him from office regardless of who we nominate.

Remember, in 92, most top tier candidates in the Democratic party decided not to run for President since they decided it was virtually impossible to defeat Bush Sr. in November. Who did they eventually nominate? The three term Womanizing Governor from Arkansas with more baggage then a Coach Outlet who almost had to be dragged off the stage at the 88’ Democratic Convention and received his only applause that night when he finally stopped talking and left. He was the “Trailer Trash” candidate. He took on the incumbent who just finished prosecuting a successful and stunning victory against Iraq whose approval ratings were over 90% for a good period of 91. And this “bubba” from Arkansas ended up not only wining, but gave the best Electoral Showing for the Democrats in a Presidential Race since Johnson in 64’.

88 posted on 07/02/2009 10:24:44 PM PDT by spikeytx86 (Pray for Democrats for they have been brainwashed by their fruity little club.)
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To: repubpub
She doesn’t have the tools to do this.

How do you know this? She hasn't done it on her own yet; she was under the aegis the McCain campaign in 2008, Why not give her a chance rather than dissing her right off the bat?

150 posted on 07/02/2009 11:03:47 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: repubpub
I also know plenty of Rep who still think she’s the problem with the party

LOL!! Give it up already!
210 posted on 07/02/2009 11:27:40 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: repubpub; counterpunch; goldwaterepublican
It wasn’t her fault he lost, but the theory that she could attract enough votes to beat Barack 0bama was tested, and it failed. By nearly 10 million votes and 10 points, no less. If she was the only thing making John McCain competitive, she sure didn’t do a good job. They lost in a certified landslide seven-point race which was a lot closer before the banking disaster hit with a Republican sitting in the WH.

Perhaps if the race had been close, then Palin supporters could have some credibility to their claims. But it wasn’t. It wasn’t even close to being close. Either Palin can pull in the votes, or she can’t. People had to opportunity to choose her over 0bama, and they passed by the millions.

6 posted on 07/02/2009 9:36:46 PM PDT by counterpunch

My thoughts exactly and I like her. I know plenty of Dems who would never vote for Palin, period. I also know plenty of Rep who still think she’s the problem with the party. If Palin can’t get the Republicans to vote for her then how is she to get the moderate Dems to vote for her so she has a chance of winning in 2012?

She doesn’t have the tools to do this.

Poppycock. McCain was going nowhere until he selected Palin - and even after he nominated her, when he tried to campaign separately from her he couldn't draw flies. With or without McCain, Palin drew crowds. Name a prior example of a VP candidate doing that for a ticket!!

It is no more complicated than this: Republicans can run strongly and even win landslides with conservatives who stake out defensible conservative positions and stand by them. Republicans who aren't conservative retreat from defensible conservative positions to indefensible "moderate" positions - and get cut to pieces. You give the electorate a clear choice, and you may win. You give them an echo of the Democratic position, and you stand next to no chance. Big Journalism was as hard on McCain - who until he had the Republican nomination in hand was the reporters' darling - in the general election as they were on Bush or Reagan. You can't run away from journalism, you have to run at them.


528 posted on 07/03/2009 3:35:04 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (The conceit of journalistic objectivity is profoundly subversive of democratic principle.)
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