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1 posted on 07/07/2009 3:31:19 PM PDT by NYer
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What we ought to be doing is reading the encyclical and seeing what we can learn from it

It's amazing how intelligent folks will believe the msm spin, yet won't make the time to read the encyclical and draw their own conclusions. I thought Freepers were above this nonsense.

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2 posted on 07/07/2009 3:34:58 PM PDT by NYer ("One Who Prays Is Not Afraid; One Who Prays Is Never Alone"- Benedict XVI)
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3 posted on 07/07/2009 3:39:13 PM PDT by NYer ("One Who Prays Is Not Afraid; One Who Prays Is Never Alone"- Benedict XVI)
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Well if the Pope is wrong, then he's wrong.

He has no education or experience in these matters.

4 posted on 07/07/2009 3:39:47 PM PDT by humblegunner
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Thanks for the ping. Keep me in the loop.


6 posted on 07/07/2009 3:46:09 PM PDT by TheRiverNile
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The “social justice Catholics” will use this letter to justify their allegiance to Obama. Never mind that the pope’s whole argument hinges on the acceptance of the concept of natural law, which liberal Catholics do not accept.


9 posted on 07/07/2009 3:53:03 PM PDT by RobbyS (ECCE homo)
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I THINK that the Supreme Knight is wrong making a PC useless comment.

Pope’s last encyclique appears to be a great teaching which place human being at the centre and thye top of economy.

As far as i heard it is highlighting PERSONNAL RESPONSABILITY and human’s dignity and these are core CONSERVATIVE values


10 posted on 07/07/2009 3:56:03 PM PDT by Ulysse
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Let's see. He uses the term, "common good" 20 times and "global" 54 times. He cites the United Nations 5 times.

In the face of the unrelenting growth of global interdependence, there is a strongly felt need, even in the midst of a global recession, for a reform of the United Nations Organization, and likewise of economic institutions and international finance, so that the concept of the family of nations can acquire real teeth.

Talking about redistribution of wealth:

Economic life undoubtedly requires contracts, in order to regulate relations of exchange between goods of equivalent value. But it also needs just laws and forms of redistribution governed by politics, and what is more, it needs works redolent of the spirit of gift.

The processes of globalization, suitably understood and directed, open up the unprecedented possibility of large-scale redistribution of wealth on a world-wide scale; if badly directed, however, they can lead to an increase in poverty and inequality, and could even trigger a global crisis.

What is also needed, though, is a worldwide redistribution of energy resources, so that countries lacking those resources can have access to them.


What does that mean? I can only figure that "certain" developed countries are using "too much" oil, and that is what is creating an imbalance of wealth. I've never had an issue with this Pope. I'm not Catholic but have found myself cheering many of his pronouncements. This time around, though, much of what he is saying could vey easily be used as an excuse to cripple our nation even further without identifying the evil, corrupt governments that cause much of the suffering in under- and undeveloped countries.

Regardless of the speaker, when I hear a speech or read an article that contains "redistribution", "social justice", "United Nations", "globalization", and "common good", a red flag starts waving.
11 posted on 07/07/2009 4:12:48 PM PDT by ChocChipCookie (Survival is a Mom's Job! Check out my blog: www.thesurvivalmom.com)
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I wish a were wrong, but I sincerely believe that I am not wrong, in thinking that (1)the current Pope’s messages on economic issues are INTENTIONALLY euphemistic enough that Marxists will find common cause with them, (2)that Benedict knows this, and (3)he is, in terms of political philosophy, active on the side of “democratic” socialists. He is part of that generation of European Roman Catholic intellectuals who have made common cause with Marxists in Europe on so-called “social justice” issues, only to see the socialists resulting victories produce socialist majorities that compromise family and life issues in the end.

If I were a lay member of the Catholic Church, I would be praying for an “American” Catholic Church, devoid of ALL Europe’s influences.


16 posted on 07/07/2009 5:21:16 PM PDT by Wuli
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The Catholic haters and the headline only, readers have been busy today trying to make everyone believe that Pope Benedict is calling for the dreaded “One World Government!!!!”.


18 posted on 07/07/2009 5:44:19 PM PDT by tiki (True Christians will not deliberately slander or misrepresent others or their beliefs)
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Good article, NYer. Thanks for the post. The Supreme Knight is spot on!


19 posted on 07/07/2009 5:47:19 PM PDT by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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Are Catholics really going to just sit there and let the Pope bat them around just because he’s the Pope? What absurdity, truly.

Benedict just issued the most radical leftwing Encyclical in the history of the RCC, full of ambitions larger than anything the Holy Roman Emperor could have dreamed up at the height of medieval papal power. It’s a shocking document that calls for an armed world government. And yet here we have denizens of a right wing website trying to tell us, “Nothing to see here. Move along.”

“Subsidiarity” makes it all OK. Yeah, right. Keep telling yourself that.

It’s actually funny. I guess you guys are just going to follow Benedict right over a cliff and into Obama’s lap, because rest assured, nobody is happier with the Pope’s ideas than Barack Obama and the far left wing of the Democratic Party.


26 posted on 07/08/2009 12:00:52 AM PDT by beckett (Amor Fati)
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