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So why are you changing the subject and now focusing on heliocentric creationists?

I didn’t bring up the subject, you did. You at first denied any knowledge that heliocentric creationists posted on these threads. Now you acknowledge them but now claim that it doesn’t really matter to you.

It doesn't bother me one bit what someone believes about geocentric or heliocentric models of the solar system or universe. That's their decision and they have reasons for believing what they believe.

So you believe that one’s belief in a geocentric or heliocentric model doesn’t matter one wit as long as that’s what they believe and it’s all up to their own reasons and “decisions” as to what to believe. Yet you admonish and ridicule anyone who doesn’t believe in a literal interpretation of Genesis and a 6,000 year old Earth or who accepts the TOE. How convenient and grossly intellectually dishonest and inconsistent of you.

I'm not embarrassed by it; it doesn't have any effect on me in a practical sense. It's really irrelevant to my day to day living.

You should be embarrassed by the heliocentric creationists. That you defend them or refuse to refute them tells me that you really care nothing about science. And whether or not you care to admit it or not, it does have a practical effect on you, unless you want to believe that the Moon landings were staged events and never really happened.

It doesn't eat at me that others think differently than I do, but I'm not going to roll over and play dead while we lose our freedoms in the name of "science".

Tell me exactly how legitimate scientific research or TOE has resulted in any loss of your freedoms. You are still entitled to believe in what ever you choose to believe in. Heck, there are people who believe in alien crop circles, alien abductions, clairvoyance, Big Foot, the Loch Ness monster and that 9/11 was an inside job. However none of those “beliefs” should be accepted as legitimate science or taught as such in a science class room.

And if you are going to bring up the man made global warming argument, please be aware that it doesn’t amount to a total scientific consensus. Many climate scientists are skeptical of AGW. It’s not their fault the liberal MSM largely ignores them.

I didn’t bring up the subject, you did.

OK. Where? The whole conversation started with geocentric creationists- that cute little term that you evos coined. Then you started hounding me about heliocentric creationists.

You at first denied any knowledge that heliocentric creationists posted on these threads. Now you acknowledge them but now claim that it doesn’t really matter to you.

I do? Where?

You should be embarrassed by the heliocentric creationists.

Why?

That you defend them or refuse to refute them tells me that you really care nothing about science.

What? Don't you believe that the earth revolves around the sun?

And whether or not you care to admit it or not, it does have a practical effect on you, unless you want to believe that the Moon landings were staged events and never really happened.

Like what? Tell me how.

Tell me exactly how legitimate scientific research or TOE has resulted in any loss of your freedoms. You are still entitled to believe in what ever you choose to believe in. Heck, there are people who believe in alien crop circles, alien abductions, clairvoyance, Big Foot, the Loch Ness monster and that 9/11 was an inside job. However none of those “beliefs” should be accepted as legitimate science or taught as such in a science class room.

You just answered your own question.

Many climate scientists are skeptical of AGW.

No kidding. I never would have guessed. /roll eyes.....