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1 posted on 07/15/2009 7:34:11 PM PDT by maccaca
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That doesn’t seem likely.


2 posted on 07/15/2009 7:35:31 PM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (ALSO SPRACH ZEROTHUSTRA)
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I can’t be bothered with this news — I’m too happy celebrating my marriage to my wife: Morgan Fairchild.


5 posted on 07/15/2009 7:41:33 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (I don't believe anything anyone says about anything anymore.)
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How do we arrive at numbers for China’s economy? Surely we don’t take their word for it, do we? Of course we accept US inflation numbers that exclude food and fuel, and we all know the unemployment numbers are drastically cooked, so maybe anything goes.


6 posted on 07/15/2009 7:44:39 PM PDT by Trod Upon (Obama: Making the Carter malaise look good. Misery Index in 3...2...1)
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I’m calling BS on this, too.


8 posted on 07/15/2009 7:48:58 PM PDT by 17th Miss Regt
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China can say anything they want and who is going to prove them otherwise.


9 posted on 07/15/2009 7:53:47 PM PDT by antiunion person (PALIN/JINDAL 2012)
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So an export economy in the midst of a worldwide recession somehow has a 7.9% growth rate? BS or Germany would love to know it’s secret, as would SK, Taiwan and Japan.


10 posted on 07/15/2009 7:56:35 PM PDT by aft_lizard (Barack Obama is Hugo Chavez's poodle.)
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Many analysts expect China to be the first major country to emerge from the worst global economic slump since the 1930s.

Chi-Com banks are loaning trillions of yuan as part of the stimulus. What about them non-performing loans that worry economists?

China's banks in loans dilemma

12 posted on 07/15/2009 8:22:25 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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A couple of months ago I re-allocated my retirement funds and went 70% Asian/emerging markets. My broker, didn’t say I was crazy, but said, “You do know this is upside down of what everyone else does.” BTW, this is for new investments, my old stuff is where it has been for the last few years. I think that barring a massive Asian land war or something, that India and China are going to start seeing a rising middle class, and that much of their growth will be spurred by this consumer market. I’m not optimistic about US business right now.


16 posted on 07/15/2009 8:35:44 PM PDT by Richard Kimball (We're all criminals. They just haven't figured out what some of us have done yet.)
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Chinese GDP A Case Of 'Fake It ‘Til You Make It'

China’s GDP figures might show that the world’s third-largest economy is coming out of its funk. But few economists will take Thursday’s report at face value. While their caution is wise, the Middle Kingdom probably is recovering – tentatively.

By John Foley, breakingviews.com
Published: 3:16PM BST 15 Jul 2009

The country’s leadership has set a target of 8pc growth for 2009. Most economists believe the magic number will be hit, as do 88pc of investors in China, according to an ING survey. Reported growth in the first quarter was 6.1pc, and a 7.1pc “print” is expected for the second quarter, followed by above-trend growth in the second half.

But the GDP growth rate in China is too important a number politically to be reliable. From the bottom to the top of the data chain, everyone has a reason to report numbers that look politically correct. As economist Charles Goodhart pointed out, when leaders turn a measurement into a target, it stops being a good measurement.

Still, simpler indicators also point to recovery. Car sales rose 37pc in June. Electricity consumption rose 3.7pc, reversing May’s decline. Production of steel, diesel, speciality chemicals and even fridges are all back at pre-downturn levels. Exports are still falling, but a slower fall in imports suggests China's domestic consumption is recovering faster than that of its trade partners.

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18 posted on 07/15/2009 8:57:01 PM PDT by blam
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and 2 new coal plants go online every week in China.

See an energy/production correlation?


21 posted on 07/15/2009 10:25:29 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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Here’s an article and thread that I think has a good grasp on the Chinese economy and, more particularly, their balance of payments. There are a variety of views, so you may reach your own conclusions: http://blogs.cfr.org/setser/2009/07/13/will-the-chinese-keep-saving/#more-5906


23 posted on 07/15/2009 10:47:23 PM PDT by Praxeologue
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