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Who Are the Birthers? (CBS will tell us)
C-BS ^ | 7/23/09 | Breanne Montopoli

Posted on 07/23/2009 11:26:53 AM PDT by pissant

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Canadian Free Press writer, JB Williams http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/12999

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Every member of the Supreme Court, every member of congress, every member of the Joint Chiefs, most members of the DOD, CIA, FBI, Secret Service and state run media, ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, PBS, NPR, MSNBC, Fox and print news, knows that Barack Hussein Obama does NOT meet Article II – Section I constitutional requirements for the office he holds. By his own biography, there is NO way he can pass the test. The hard evidence is so far beyond overwhelming, it is ridiculous.

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But not ONE member of America’s most powerful people will dare confront Obama and his anti-American cabal on the subject. The Constitution does NOT stand.

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Half of the people you expect to stop this insanity are quiet co-conspirators in the silent coup. The other half is paralyzed by fear, motivated only by political self-preservation.

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Americans keep asking what they can do because they see that none of their leaders are doing anything to stop the demise of their beloved country. It’s the right question, because those leaders are NOT going to stop this thing.

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WHO WILL SAVE FREEDOM?
A brave few… This is how it was in the beginning, how it has always been and how it will be.

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DR. ORLY TAITZ, Phil Berg and Gary Kreep, ALL OF WHOMHAVE MADE DEFENDING THE CONSTITUTION AND THE AMERICAN WAY OF LIFE A PERSONAL AMBITION, THE THE ABSENCE OF ANY CONSTITUTION LEADERSHIP.

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A PRECIOUS FEW, BUT THEY EXIST… and the walls are indeed closing in on Obama and his evil cabal. IF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE FAIL TO GET BEHIND THESE BRAVE FEW WHO ARE SEEKING PEACEFUL REDRESS, ALL THE PEACEFUL OPTIONS WILL EVAPORATE AS IF THEY NEVER EXISTED. WE WILL RETURN TO A PRE-1776 AMERICA OVERNIGHT..

Do YOU fear Obama?
http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/12999

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41 posted on 07/23/2009 12:23:42 PM PDT by patriot08
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To: pissant

And what’s even funnier is that the US State Department doesn’t recognize a COLB as proof of birth, nor does even the Department of Hawaiian Homelands.


42 posted on 07/23/2009 12:24:34 PM PDT by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

THAT is what a REAL BC looks like! What is the File Number for Bammy’s??


43 posted on 07/23/2009 12:31:41 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion....the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: pissant

I am a birther. I will be a birther until I see a copy of the original birth certificate signed and dated by the physician who delivered the Obamanation. Nothing else will count.


44 posted on 07/23/2009 12:33:00 PM PDT by MSSC6644 (Defeat Satan. Pray the Rosary)
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To: pissant
Did anyone else see this nugget from one of the "investigations" CBS refers to?

We tried to ask the Hawaii DOH why they only offer the short form, among other questions, but they have not given a response.

45 posted on 07/23/2009 12:36:56 PM PDT by New Girl
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To: CaptainK

“Is there something else embarrassing on the original document causing him to stop it’s release, even if it clears up the initial question?”

MABEY HE’S A SHE OR SOME COMBINATION OF, shure throws like a girl.


46 posted on 07/23/2009 12:37:40 PM PDT by Iron head mike (The government will soon make criminals of us all.)
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To: DontTreadOnMe2009
What I find odd is there has been a decided increase in Media Attacks on the “Birthers.” When the multiple media sources start attacking at the same time it indicates coordination from the white house. They fax blast talking points to friendly journalists.

Note the Saul Alinsky type tactics:
1. Define the enemy in the publics eyes. (Right Wing Nuts)
2. Ridicule the enemy (Birthers and Crazies)
3. Feign outrage of “unjust attacks.”
4. Repeat the same lies again and again and again.
5. Destroy the enemy with these lies.

47 posted on 07/23/2009 12:43:49 PM PDT by cpdiii (roughneck, oilfield trash and proud of it, geologist, pilot, pharmacist, iconoclast.)
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To: Ann Archy
Scroll over to the right on the large pic I posted to you.Not his starts out 151 1961 whereas the real one I posted start out 151 62.

The year date code is a different format.

I'm sure its been discussed but I don't know the answer

48 posted on 07/23/2009 12:49:05 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Move over NetZero - Obama's in the house!)
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To: Rational Thought

You said — The people who ask for proof are labeled nutty.

Well the ones who do appear to be nutty are of a certain segment. I derived some definitions for that, which is called “Obama Derangement Syndrome” and they do have some characteristics which are identifiable...


You know... every time this subject comes up about the birth certificate, I’ve seen these characteristics that identify those of the “Obama Derangement Syndrome”....

No... it’s a *real syndrome* all right. And there are folks who have it. The only thing I can figure out is that some people “went insane” after Obama was elected and this was how they decided to “cope” with the changed world they were in.

As for myself, I was shocked. What can I say? I mean it was really depressing that Obama was elected — but fortunately — I did not descend into the Obama Derangement Syndrome, but rather, started working with my state legislature to pass legislation to require any candidate produce a birth certificate if they were running for office, or else they cannot be on the ballot.

What can I say? Some people “went insane” and some people “got down to productive work” — in regards to Obama, in order to do something in the “real world”....

Here are some of the characteristics of Obama Derangement Syndrome, that I’ve seen and compiled from interviewing various insane people.... :-)

I’ll outline a few so you can see what I’ve defined as that...

(1) A military coup because Obama is not qualified and the military forces his resignation (there are variations on that but they all center on a military coup, forcing Obama out of office by the military people).

(2) Obama is not President right now... (a real detachment from reality).

(3) Obama can be removed from office as President right now by a judge ordering a U.S. Marshal to walk into the Oval Office and arrest Obama and remove him from the White House.

(4) The reason why Obama has not been removed from office thus far and the courts have not removed him is because there is a widespread conspiracy, fear, or collusion or whatever other reason supplied for the conspiracy. “Everyone” is involved in the conspiracy and thus Obama can’t be removed. (can be variations on this but it’s all about a general and widespread conspiracy as to why Obama is still in office).

(5) The idea that Obama must present his birth certificate, even though there is no legal requirement to do so, and even though no other candidates have ever been compelled, legally, to produce their birth certificate, and that if Obama doesn’t produce his birth certificate, then he is not qualified.

(6) The rejection of simple, real-world solutions to this birth certificate problem (like getting an ordinary state law requiring the showing of a birth certificate), and instead, insisting on “solutions” that don’t work in the real world and/or “solutions” that have not worked in all this time.


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2298832/posts?page=141#141


49 posted on 07/23/2009 12:50:50 PM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: SirJohnBarleycorn

You said — Whenever the MSM touches on this issue in an attempt to whitewash it, there is a danger to them that a significant percentage of Americans who were otherwise not much interested in the issue will become curious, read more about it and learn that the COLB is merely a purported summary of his actual long form birth certificate, which he is resisting mightily to disclose.

I’ve detected a sort of new strategy being developed by the leftists... and I have said elsewhere that I’m detecting a “change in strategy” and that the leftists are actually co-opting this issue for themselves and finding it useful to derail conservatives. I’ve noticed this just recently.

This is what I said in another post...


Yes, it does appear to be a change in strategy and I noted that it was a “change” elsewhere. It seems to be a “developing strategy” actually. You know how some things work... you gradually come upon them or you stumble upon them. I think it may be that way with this, more recently.

I wrote the following elsewhere..., in a thread in which an article was trying to “tag” someone with this label of being a birther, while they were actually trying to distance themselves from it. It was like the article was “using” the birther designation to sidetrack the real issues that were being spoken about, by this conservative.

So, the comment I said elsewhere...

The leftists don’t want the issue to go away. It’s too useful to them. I posted the following in another thread about what someone said is “panic” setting in. What I see, instead, is a “strategy” developing by the leftists...

Well, here’s how it would work..., if you’re a conservative and you have ever said anything about the birth certificate issue, those leftists are going to know about it. And then, let’s say you’re giving some reasoned points on some legislation being pushed by Obama...

If it starts sounding too good or they can’t counter it — then it’s time to shift over to the “Obama birth certificate issue” — and the leftists will be the ones who raise it.

Then they try to paint that person *as* one of those who believes that Obama is not qualified to be President, because he has not shown a proper birth certificate.

At that point, they’ve just gotten you off your points in regards to Obama’s legislation that you’re trying to get out to the public and over into whether you think that Obama is qualified to be President or not.

The public sees and hears this, they forget all about the points you were making on the legislation that Obama is pushing and now the public thinks the whole issue was about whether Obama is qualified to be President or not.

The leftists love to get the conservatives over into that topic, because it means that this particular conservative can’t talk about the legislation that he originally wanted to talk about.

That’s how it works...

And that’s why the leftists are loving the Obama Birth Certificate Issue as a good issue for them to beat on and divert any conversation away from something else.


I think the birther issue is going to be useful to them...


50 posted on 07/23/2009 12:54:25 PM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: Ann Archy
Ann, note all of the info on the long form birth certificate listed below.

Obamamight not have been born in the U.S. But in my IMO, he's hiding something else. Also notice the CBS story never differentiated between a COB and Birth Certificate and largely consists of ad hominen attacks.

51 posted on 07/23/2009 12:59:48 PM PDT by Red Dog #1
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To: RinaseaofDs

Hear, hear! Let that disgusting term stay at DU where it came from.


52 posted on 07/23/2009 1:00:16 PM PDT by Scanian
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To: pissant

Questions: That’s not supposed to be a copy of the original birth certificate, is it? I don’t get what that is. It doesn’t have the name of the registrar on it or the person who delivered the baby. Is that contemporary paper it is printed on, because it has the word ‘laser’ on the bottom of it. What is that?


53 posted on 07/23/2009 1:02:40 PM PDT by Cinnamon Girl (G-d Bless President Bush. He kept us safe.)
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To: Domandred

Yes, and no birth certificate will make that issue go away. Only a SCOTUS ruling. And, with the makeup of the Court being what it is, and Obama’s destructive governing of the country being what it is, I hope and pray that SCOTUS now has a greater appetite for taking on the issue than it did 6-7 months ago.


54 posted on 07/23/2009 1:04:10 PM PDT by Scanian
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To: Domandred

Here’s a news outlet for you — and here ya are, other folks readers... this is “Birth Certificate Central”... at WorldNetDaily...

No..., I really like WorldNetDaily. This is not any kind of derogatory remark about them. They are an excellent news site on the web. I’ve followed them for years. They have a Christian worldview outlook and I would recommend them to all readers, regardless of the birth certificate issue that they go after all the time.

As I’ve posted elsewhere... below...

Every time I see the birth certificate issue, I’ve got to pump up WorldNetDaily, since they are on this issue *all the time*...

If you want to go to a legitimate news source that has been on the Obama birth certificate issue for a long time now and does so *consistently* — go to WorldNetDaily...

WorldNetDaily
http://www.wnd.com/

They even pay to have billboards put up around the United States asking “Where is the Birth Certificate?”... I don’t know of any other news source anywhere that has paid to put up these kinds of billboards all over the country.

If you’re interested in the Obama Birth Certificate issue, you’ll find a lot of older articles from them on it, and they always have new articles coming up all the time. They are always hammering away at this issue and it’s a new source that is well worth supporting by going and clicking on their links.

Keep up on the birth certificate issue on WorldNetDaily...

[... I love WorldNetDaily, as they’re a fine news website... :-) ...]


55 posted on 07/23/2009 1:06:38 PM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: coconutt2000

You can only be a “birther” if you allow the left to define you.

Personally, I’m sick and tired of them telling us who we are and what we’re like. They’d love to relegate “birthers” to the same kook category as “9/11 truthers” though the two aren’t remotely comparable.

“Constitutionalists” and “patriots” are the applicable terms for eligibility doubters, IMHO.


56 posted on 07/23/2009 1:09:00 PM PDT by Scanian
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To: Las Vegas Ron

hmmmmmm.


57 posted on 07/23/2009 1:10:32 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion....the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

hmmmmmm.


58 posted on 07/23/2009 1:10:33 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion....the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Ann Archy

I think you mean “Certification of Live Birth.” In Hawaii, “Certificate of Live Birth” has a lot more credibility and we have not seen such a document, or even a photograph of one.

Any “journalist” who pretends that they trust the Kos or Fact Check “certifications” is being disingenuous to the max. Even a rookie reporter who has done minimal research knows that those things are completely worthless.


59 posted on 07/23/2009 1:13:56 PM PDT by Scanian
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To: Scanian

You said — They’d love to relegate “birthers” to the same kook category as “9/11 truthers” though the two aren’t remotely comparable.

Well, it didn’t help, in that regard, that Phil Berg, who launched several cases about Obama’s birth certificate — and — was also pursuing a case that said President Bush was either complicit or ordered the 9/11 attack on America... LOL..

It would seem that Berg “goes both ways”... :-)


60 posted on 07/23/2009 1:17:29 PM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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