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To: Albion Wilde
Like all crime, abortion may never be completely eliminated, but that does not mean that it should be legal to murder another human being, whether in our out of the womb.
40 posted on 07/28/2009 3:13:19 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: trisham
Like all crime, abortion may never be completely eliminated, but that does not mean that it should be legal to murder another human being, whether in our out of the womb.

The life of the mother during the actual birth process is the only possible reason, and then it should be the choice of the mother and her husband. If they already have a bunch of children at home and the baby has a serious malady and the mother may die giving birth unless a choice is made, that is the only thing I can think of. But no matter what we say legally, it is hearts and minds that matter -- the culture must be reclaimed. Politicians, anti-life individuals and medical workers will always find a way to elasticize any exemption.

There was a recent thread about an adoption case in which the state divulged the name of the mother to a woman who had been given away as an infant. The mother had received assurance that the case was sealed forever, because the child was the product of rape. Distraught woman sues, alleging N.J. helped child of rape find her

Predictably, many adopted FReepers called the mother a heartless bitch for not wanting to welcome the child into her subsequently constructed family, and the rejected child harassed the mother and her daughter, causing the woman to have to relive the entire trauma of the rape and unwanted pregnancy.

One of the male posters said from that discussion that he never thought he would see a use for abortion; but that this aggressive, fantasy-based sentimentality was convincing him that it might be acceptable in case of rape. But I believe that is because the culture has become so distorted that young people today think about a child resulting from an unwanted sexual encounter, a violent one at that, as no big deal. The article didn't say whether mixed-race was involved; but if it had been back in the day, it would also have been a bigger deal than now. No matter what, this mother gave the child life instead of killing it, and now a careless bureaucrat casually ripped her past open.

One of the other moaners was upset because the adopted-out woman found out she was the product of rape through this process -- they felt the mother should have protected her from that, when clearly, the adoption authority of the state was the malfeaser. The mother is suing the NJ Department of Children and Families.

This is the 24/7 wired world we are now living in, where everyone goes on Maury Povich to display their bad behavior to the world; where YouTube will memorialize the very worst things about people in perpetuity. ( ( ( ( shaking head ) ) ) The younger generation thinks everything -- everything -- is a right!! -- yet they take so little responsibility compared to our parents and grandparents.

47 posted on 07/28/2009 5:21:08 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ("Media: quit making things up." --Sarah Palin)
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