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Debate over Health Care to Illegal Aliens will Continue after August Recess
NumbersUSA.com ^ | 7/29/2009

Posted on 07/29/2009 6:43:04 PM PDT by GVnana

Debate over Health Care to Illegal Aliens will Continue after August Recess
Updated Wednesday, July 29, 2009, 1:42 PM

Blue Dog Democrats on the House Energy and Commerce Committee have struck a deal with the House leadership that will prevent a floor vote on the health care reform bill before the August recess. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) has been optimistic on holding a vote before the House breaks at the end of the week, but key details of the bill, including the coverage of illegal aliens, remain topics for debate. Although the bill contains a section that excludes illegal aliens from coverage, there are no provisions within the bill requiring beneficiaries to show their citizenship status.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aliens; healthcare; hispandering; immigrantlist; immigration; pandering
More on Nancy Pelosi's lies at the link.
1 posted on 07/29/2009 6:43:05 PM PDT by GVnana
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To: GVnana

This is one item I think they should not only win on in the markup discussion, they should shout it from the top of the Capitol that this is their intentions.


2 posted on 07/29/2009 6:49:05 PM PDT by kempster
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To: GVnana

What is there to DEBATE?! NO, ILLEGALS DO NOT GET ‘FREE’ HEALTHCARE! Anyone signing on to this is GOING HOME during the next election.


3 posted on 07/29/2009 6:52:01 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: kempster

Here is something that should frighten Whitey. Illegal Aliens, Blacks, and other minorities might get better care and first crack at health care facilities etc because the Czar in charge has to worry about racism, etc.

Sort of like the white firefighters had to deal with a reverse discrimination issue.

I can’t even imagine what it would be like for a white male construction worker.


4 posted on 07/29/2009 6:54:28 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: GVnana
Forget after the recess. These Democrats are going to find out what real outrage and resentment is during the recess. hehehe...couldn't happen to a more deserving bunch.

Here is a link to the full House Democrat Health Care Plan in PDF. In Section 1233 E & F, pages 426-433, you find the part about mandatory end-of-life counseling for anyone over 65 years of age. Section 152 Page 50: All healthcare services will be provided without regard to "personal characteristcs" which is not defined within the document but is understood to include immigration status.

Section 224 b Page 125: The Secretary shall design and implement the payment mechanisms and policies under this section in a manner that — (1) seeks to (B) reduce health disparities (including racial, ethnic and other disparities).

A lot more provisions now being documented at that site.

Donwload it, read it, study it, then hammer your reps over it and pass it on to all you know asking them to do the same.

HOUSE DEMOCRAT HEALTH CARE PLAN - http://www.jeffhead.com/DemHealthCare.htm

Also, here's a large image of the Democratic (Obama) Health Plan chart-another Obama empty promise. This is the one the House democrats are censuring. Email these links or the image to everyone you know.


Decmocrat (Obama) Health Plan
http://www.jeffhead.com/DemHealthCare.htm

Obama and all those pushing his radical agenda are abject marxist ideologues. Their "fundamental; change" is nothing more than a destruction of the American free market and fundamental republican principle.

A PETITION FOR CONSTITUTIONAL RESTORATION

THE AUDACITY OF TRUTH ABOUT BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA

A 4TH OF JULY TEA PARTY SPEECH

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5 posted on 07/29/2009 6:56:06 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: GVnana

What do you think of the planned demonstrations during the up coming recess?For more info and a really cool directory of congressional contact information and a history of past voting on bills go to http://recessrally.com


6 posted on 07/29/2009 9:59:35 PM PDT by nomad
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7 posted on 07/29/2009 11:02:47 PM PDT by gubamyster
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To: GVnana
I have been going through this bill and documenting some of the things I find. I urge every one to do the same by downloding the entire PDF File, HERE.

Then contact all of your reps and exercise a politcal free fire zone over this monstrosity.

Here are some of the things I have found so far.

Section 113 b-1 Page 22: Mandates an audit of all employers that self-insure to "ensure that the law does not provide incentives for small and mid-size employers to self-insure".

Section 123 Page 30: A government Health Benefits Advisory Committee will recommend what treatments and benefits are available. Once accepted and adopted by the Secretary of Health and Human Services, there is no appeal.

Section 141 & 142 Page 42: Establish a "Health Choices Commissioner" appointed by the Prresident who will establish qualified plan standards for the insured, establish a "Health INsurance Exchange", will administer "Health Insurance Credits" and determin who is eligible, will ensure compliance, conduct audits, administer penalites and remedies.

Section 152 Page 50: All healthcare services will be provided without regard to "personal characteristcs" which is not defined within the document as is understood to include immigration status.

Section 1173A a-2-D Page 58: Calls for a National Health Plan Beneficiary Identification Card for every person and the ability to determine a persons indivual financial responsibility and eligibility prior to, or at the time of service.

Section 1173A a-4-C Page 59: Requires the ability to have electronic funds tranfer from insured account to the federal government automate reconcilliation of health care payment.

Section 164 Page 65: Taxpayers will subsidize a retiree reinsurance health fund up to 10 billion dollars to assist participating employment-based plans (unions, community organizers, etc.) with the cost of providing health benefits to retirees and to eligible spouses, surviving spouses and dependents of such retirees

Section 294 b-7 Page 91: Government mandates culturally and linguistically appropriate communication and health services for all.

Section 205 a-1 Page 95-96: The Government will etsablish an outreach program to inform, educate, and enroll participants, directed at "vulnerable" populations and to be accomplished in person at "community locations", by mail, telephone, or electronically. Tailor made for ACORN and Americorps.

Section 205 C-3-3 Page 102: If you do not enroll in a "National Health Exchange Plan" and are eligible for Medicaid, you will automatically be enrolled in Medicaid. You have no choice in the matter.

Section 223 f Page 124: There will be no administrative or "judicial review" permitted for payment rates established under the National Health Care Plans.

Section 224 b Page 125: The Secretary shall design and implement the payment mechanisms and policies under this section in a manner that — (1) seeks to (B) reduce health disparities (including racial, ethnic and other disparities).

Section 312 a-4, c-2 Page 145-148: An employer MUST auto-enroll employees into a government approved plan, either the public plan or another plan, unless an employee makes an affiormative decision to opt out.

Seaction 312 b-3 Page 146-147: Employers MUST pay pro-rated healthcare contribution for part-time employees AND their families.

Section 313 b-1 Page 150: Any employer with a payroll of $400K or more, who does not offer the public option, pays an 8% tax on payroll, $350+-400K it is 6%, for over $300+-350K it is 4%, for $250+- 300K it is 2%.

Title IV Amendment to IRS COde Imposes a 2.5% income tax penalty to those individuals opting out, not to exceed what would be the National Average Premium, determined by the Secretary of Health and Welfare.

Section 1233 E & F Page 426-433 Establishes mandatory end-of-life counseling for senior citizens over age 65 every five years, or sooner if bebeficiary becomes ill.

Section 1302 a Page 460-482: Establishes a "Medical Home Pilot Program" for the elderly or "targeted high need beneficiaries" in urban, rural, and served areas. No physician nned be on duty, run by nurse paractitioners and physician assistants. Care for beneficiaries coordinated by a team of individuals at the practice level using "evidence based guidelines" which advocate only the use of medical treatments that are supported by effectiveness research.

8 posted on 07/30/2009 5:11:34 AM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: GVnana
Although the bill contains a section that excludes illegal aliens from coverage, there are no provisions within the bill requiring beneficiaries to show their citizenship status.

The bill may say it excludes illegals but there are portions of it that provide for translators. If we're dealing with citizens only then they should have at least a passing familiarity with English.

9 posted on 08/02/2009 2:14:25 PM PDT by YankeeReb
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