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In Iran, Both Sides Seek to Carry Islam’s Banner
The New York Times ^ | June 21, 2009 | NEIL MacFARQUHAR

Posted on 08/01/2009 11:15:57 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, Iran’s supreme leader, ended his prayer sermon in tears on Friday, invoking the name of a disappeared Shiite prophet to suggest that his government was besieged by forces of evil out to destroy a legitimate Islamic government.

The opposition leader, Mir Hussein Moussavi, in criticizing the government, demanded the kind of justice promised by the Koran and exhorted his followers to take to their rooftops at night to cry out, “Allahu akbar,” or “God is great.”

In the battle to control Iran’s streets, both the government and the opposition are deploying religious symbols and parables to portray themselves as pursing the ideal of a just Islamic state.

That struggle could prove the main fulcrum in the battle for the hearts and minds of most ordinary Iranians, because the Islamic Revolution, since its inception, has painted itself as battling evil. If the government fails the test of being just, not least by using excessive violence against its citizens, it risks letting the opposition wrap itself in the mantle of Islamic virtue.

“If either the reformists or the conservatives can make reference to Islamic values in a way that the majority of citizens understand, they will win,” said Mohsen Kadivar, a senior Iranian religious scholar teaching Islamic studies at Duke University.

Perhaps most important, the outcome may determine the support the government enjoys among the ideological zealots who form the backbone of the security forces. Some Iran experts see the level of violence in the week ahead as crucial in the tug of war over Islam.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: iran; iranviolence2009; mesbahyazdi

1 posted on 08/01/2009 11:15:58 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

“Both sides” meaning the regime and the (for now) official “opposition”. The author cannot seriously suggest that these are the two sides of Iranian politics. But then again... it’s the NYT.


2 posted on 08/01/2009 11:21:07 AM PDT by SolidWood (Sarah Palin: "Only dead fish go with the flow!")
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To: FourPeas; Texas Fossil; SolidWood; FARS; NormsRevenge; Grampa Dave; SierraWasp; Marine_Uncle; ...
Related background ...FR Thread:

Iran: The end of the Republic?

And the Cleric behind much of the violence:

Iran Ayatollah Mesbah-Yazdi is Nostradamus Third Anti-Christ Mabus

3 posted on 08/01/2009 11:24:29 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Support Geert Wilders)
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To: SolidWood
From the second link at #3:

Iran’s Ayatollah Mohammad Taqi Mesbah-Yazdi is the person who ousted the previous Iranian reformer President and got President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad elected.

Well this Ayatollah is definitely one side against everybody else....and his man is Ahmadinejad

4 posted on 08/01/2009 11:37:33 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

The feedback I get from there through Twitter lead me to believe that the Iranian people no longer want anything other than Freedom. No Mullahs. This started out as the Green Revolution and has turned into a Freedom Tsunami. It is no longer in control of Musavi.

The “ruling” cretin will not give up power without a fight, but I feel that ultimately the Iranian people will prevail.

U.S. Congressman McCotter made a statement to that effect on the House floor this past week and it was a powerful statement. I totally agreed with him.

See=> Taraneh’s Story makes it to the floor of U.S. House Representatives http://bit.ly/gTdsz


5 posted on 08/01/2009 11:37:53 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (The last time I looked, this is still Texas where I live.)
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To: SolidWood
The author cannot seriously suggest that these are the two sides of Iranian politics.

They certainly are not!

6 posted on 08/01/2009 11:47:38 AM PDT by sionnsar (IranAzadi|5yst3m 0wn3d-it's N0t Y0ur5:SONY|Neda Agha-Soltan - one victim of murderous regime)
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To: Texas Fossil; Marine_Uncle

That is excellent...


7 posted on 08/01/2009 12:23:21 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Glad you liked it, I thought it was great. And it went over very well in the Iran Support Circles on Twitter.


8 posted on 08/01/2009 12:37:59 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (The last time I looked, this is still Texas where I live.)
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To: Texas Fossil
McCotter delivers...and posts on Youtube...Good stuff:

McCotter Iran Floor Speech: "Her Name was Neda"

Gets some good licks in regarding Carter,.. Reagan and our current White House Occupant.

9 posted on 08/01/2009 12:58:50 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Support Geert Wilders)
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To: All; Marine_Uncle; G8 Diplomat; SolidWood
And:

McCotter on Fox News Redeye Supporting Neda and Iranian Protestors

This is Excellent ....lays out why we should do something!

10 posted on 08/01/2009 1:06:17 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Support Geert Wilders)
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To: All
Another Youtube by McCotter:

McCotter Floor Speech on Iranian Freedom Stressing American Support

11 posted on 08/01/2009 1:08:55 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Iran has become unglued. However, regardless of what one thinks about a eventual overthrow of the regime the fact remains they continue to let the centrifuges whirl. Higher levels (high percent by mass) of U232 continue to be extracted


12 posted on 08/01/2009 4:25:55 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

In Iran, Both Sides Seek to Carry Islam’s Banner



....Right.

The opposition doesn't want a theocracy, they want freedom. The NYT wouldn't know a thing about freedom, would they.
13 posted on 08/01/2009 4:35:18 PM PDT by G8 Diplomat
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

So. Lady Liberty does not have a dimmer within her confines. I’m not so sure of that one. It looks like America has the dimmer control set at a minimum since zero started to live at the WH. Of course he lives there but the position of POTUS still remains to be occupied by a legitimate individual.


14 posted on 08/01/2009 4:36:35 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle
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