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I don't give away cheap points. As I've said, your question is poorly posed. You created a false dichotomy: either Wong Kim Ark is about citizenship, or it is about "natural-born" citizenship, but not both.

If I have to respond to such a question, I can do so only by qualifying my answer. Of course I do not agree with you that there actually is such an either/or choice for Wong Kim Ark. You yourself now admit that Justice Gray did, in fact, discuss what "natural-born" means, thereby showing how your dichotomy is a farce; that Justice Gray concluded that Mr. Wong was "merely" a citizen does not negate his analysis of the meaning of "natural-born."

As for your alleged "true understanding," what part of "The same rule was in force...in the United States afterwards, and continued to prevail under the Constitution as originally established" don't you understand? There are no quotation marks anywhere in those two paragraphs. The initial paragraph even begins with "It thus clearly appears that,..." Sounds oddly like a definition to me.

It appears that you have finally understood my answer. Yes, Justice Gray didn't say anything about "natural-born" citizenship in that paragraph. So you now know why I added the word only and placed quotation marks around it. I don't know for how long you had that paragraph in mind, but surely, you should've noticed that my ellipses quotation came directly from it. It would've saved the two of us a few posts.

Since the likelihood of my actually getting a definition of "natural-born" from you is almost zero, I'll make it easy for you. Why don't you tell me why Barack Obama is not a natural-born citizen under the definition below?

It thus clearly appears that, by the law of England for the last three centuries, beginning before the settlement of this country and continuing to the present day, aliens, while residing in the dominions possessed by the Crown of England, were within the allegiance, the obedience, the faith or loyalty, the protection, the power, the jurisdiction of the English Sovereign, and therefore every child born in England of alien parents was a natural-born subject unless the child of an ambassador or other diplomatic agent of a foreign State or of an alien enemy in hostile occupation of the place where the child was born.

III. The same rule was in force in all the English Colonies upon this continent down to the time of the Declaration of Independence, and in the United States afterwards, and continued to prevail under the Constitution as originally established.

You just want to play games with words, to try to win unearned points. That’s a fools game.

My question didn’t ask which issue WKA was ‘about’, but rather, which issue was the Court deciding.

Because you continue to try to twist words and play other word games, you get nothing further from me. You have zero understanding of Court decisions and how to interpret them, and are intent on playing fools games with words and such.

You’re just not worth any more time or effort.