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L.A. Episcopal leaders nominate 2 openly gay, lesbian priests as bishops
Los Angeles Times ^ | August 2, 2009 | Duke Helfand

Posted on 08/02/2009 5:13:37 PM PDT by Zakeet

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1 posted on 08/02/2009 5:13:37 PM PDT by Zakeet
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It looks like they’ve decided to turn their church over to the gay mafia.


2 posted on 08/02/2009 5:16:27 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Stop the DemocRATS' War On America!)
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To: Zakeet

Strange, I missed the new Revelation, where God said he wanted to change the Bible.


3 posted on 08/02/2009 5:17:21 PM PDT by TurtleUp (So this is how liberty dies - to thunderous applause!)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

It’s the Very Gay Church of America..don’t cha know...


4 posted on 08/02/2009 5:18:06 PM PDT by x_plus_one (Only ACORN could put a long legged mac daddy, quasi-muslim, communist freak into the white house...)
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To: Zakeet

Putting aside the theological problem of having open and unrepentant sinners in charge, it seems like a pretty short sighted decision on the part of the Episcopalians.

I just can’t see the homosexuals providing the financial support that is needed to support all of the churches and other institutions of the denomination.


5 posted on 08/02/2009 5:22:42 PM PDT by I_Like_Spam
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likely to further inflame theological conservatives.”

No, just the Christians.


6 posted on 08/02/2009 5:31:05 PM PDT by Huskrrrr
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“I just can’t see the homosexuals providing the financial support that is needed to support all of the churches and other institutions of the denomination.”

In American church history, any number of denominations have split along liberal/conservative lines. The liberal faction usually dies out long before the initial schismatics are dead, and comes crawling back to the much stronger conservative faction.

I’m living thru the current Presbyterian (PC-USA) slow-motion schism over the same issue. Those who propose gay ordination (every year, even when they’ve never won a vote nation-wide) say that, “The PC-USA is declining, and we can’t afford to lose any members.” Fair enough, but I don’t see the Presbyterians losing members to the Episcopalians, or the UCC, etc. I definitely don’t see the Metropolitan Church growing. In other words, one more time when I end up using facts to debate liberals, and as Ann Coulter points out, it doesn’t seem to work with them.


7 posted on 08/02/2009 5:33:34 PM PDT by TWohlford
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8 posted on 08/02/2009 5:38:36 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist -ww- I AM JIM THOMPSON!)
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To: Zakeet

They have free will. It will not be until judgment day that they will see the errors of their ways. Will I pray for them? Yes, I will.


9 posted on 08/02/2009 5:53:08 PM PDT by DejaJude
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Episcopal Church leaders in Los Angeles today nominated a kleptomaniac and a serial rapist as bishops, becoming one of the first dioceses in the national church to test a controversial new policy that lifted a de facto ban on the unrepentant in the ordained hierarchy.


10 posted on 08/02/2009 6:20:02 PM PDT by AD from SpringBay (We deserve the government we allow.)
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“Strange, I missed the new Revelation, where God said he wanted to change the Bible.”

Don’t worry, the lefties have that covered too...(UCC in this case)with their “God is still speaking” initiative :

“According to the Ohio-based www.gaypeopleschronicle.com,[3] Ron Buford and the Stillspeaking Initiative “puts the UCC at the forefront of liberal theology, and the denomination itself, fighting for LGBT equality from pulpits across the nation.”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/God_is_still_speaking


11 posted on 08/02/2009 6:21:34 PM PDT by Bonneville
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12 posted on 08/02/2009 6:26:21 PM PDT by sionnsar (IranAzadi|5yst3m 0wn3d-it's N0t Y0ur5:SONY|Neda Agha-Soltan - one victim of murderous regime)
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“...God is still speaking” initiative...”

Well, there a are a few times in the Bible where God has second thoughts... the “No more floods” passage in Genesis, or the entire debate over whether children’s teeth are set on edge from grapes that their parents ate (for instance).

However, usually, it’s pretty safe to side with 4,000 years of traditional understanding of morality when a new idea on morality is presented against it.


13 posted on 08/02/2009 6:28:18 PM PDT by TWohlford
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The nominations ... are likely to further inflame theological conservatives in the U.S. church

I am guessing there are relatively few of those.

14 posted on 08/02/2009 6:28:26 PM PDT by sionnsar (IranAzadi|5yst3m 0wn3d-it's N0t Y0ur5:SONY|Neda Agha-Soltan - one victim of murderous regime)
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“I am guessing there are relatively few of those.”

No, there are many, especially if you believe that each person is supposed to be doing theological reflection.

What is lacking are theological conservatives in teaching and administrative positions within the denominations’ headquarters.


15 posted on 08/02/2009 6:35:42 PM PDT by TWohlford
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Church of the Holy Homo


16 posted on 08/02/2009 6:38:00 PM PDT by PGR88
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So its the Episcopal church not the Anglican church going off the rails completely ? Or is there overlap ?


17 posted on 08/02/2009 6:38:40 PM PDT by lucias_clay (Its times like this I'm glad I'm a whig.)
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The Diocese of Los Angeles (is) widely regarded as one of the most liberal in the U.S. church of 2.1 million members. Its bishop, the Rt. Rev. J. Jon Bruno, is an outspoken advocate of gays rights in the church.

He also believes the Great Commission is null and void:

The Bishop of Los Angeles has issued an apology to Hindus for Christian attempts to convert them, and authorized a joint Hindu-Anglican service at St John’s Cathedral in Los Angeles—permitting Hindu devotees to receive the consecrated elements. The Rt. Rev. J. Jon Bruno apologized for past incidents of Christian discrimination against Hindus and vowed not to proselytize non-Christians . . . continued here
Christianity is a big tent. Christians may hold many different theological and political positions. But at the center of the faith, there is, among other things, Matthew 28:16-20. Give that up, as leftists always preach Christians should, and the faith goes the way of the Shakers. Which is, I believe, exactly what Rev. Bruno wants. Even if one is charitable and assumes Bruno doesn't know where he is headed, it doesn't change the result. Christianity will never go away but its influence will be greatly diminished by what Bruno and others accept.
18 posted on 08/02/2009 6:40:07 PM PDT by Brugmansian
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To: PGR88

Yes, this move seems queer.


19 posted on 08/02/2009 6:49:02 PM PDT by DHC-2 (my flags: http://www.jdlinn.com/liberty.html)
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To: Bonneville

1. God, Who is Eternal Truth, will never contradict Himself.

2. God is still calling sinners to repentance.


20 posted on 08/02/2009 6:54:57 PM PDT by Lauren BaRecall (I am only ONE of many real Jim Thompsons, yet I am ONE.)
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