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To: the long march

The doctors are not allowed to ‘do what they want’. Please don’t spread ‘fishy rumors’ on FR....lol.

Did you read this piece of garbage? This is ridiculous and evil..especially for our service members. End of life planning is fine as long as it is between the patient,family members and the doctor. This survey is criminal in it’s wording and intent.


13 posted on 08/19/2009 3:05:44 PM PDT by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: penelopesire

Early on they speak of studies that show most family members do the wrong thing when faced with decisions from the patients view but they don’t name the studies; then they run a bunch of ‘what if?’ situations using named people as examples of such decisions; nowhere in this was it stated that these were real people or whether they were part of the uncited ‘studies.’ (Although that seems implicit)

A strong theme runs throughout the booklet as it makes its way to the obvious expectation that those who read it need to sign such a thing or face delays at the time such a situation is encountered.

Code Blue is the second most popular name for a pet dog by emergency room staff, I’ve heard.


108 posted on 08/19/2009 4:48:40 PM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, then writes again.)
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To: penelopesire

you have not been in an end of life position then. Fact is if you want NO Care there is no guarantee that some doctor will decide that they want to put you on a medication to keep you going ( happened to my aunt until we pulled out the paper work to make them back off). There are plenty of cases that hit the courts where hospitals want to pull the plug on someone and the docs are sued. Jehova’s Witnesses ( with whom I have nothing in common) and Seventh Day Adventists ( as well as Christian Scientists) fight in court frequently to practise their religious point of view.

I read the whole booklet. These are common questions that one would like families to discuss and know something about. It isn’t a “survey” You obviously have never been a care giver for one at the end of life ( regardless of age). I find that most people do not discuss death and dying with anyone, least of all those who will be taking care of them. If you do not have your wishes written down ( regardless of what they are) you will indeed be at the mercy of someone else.


242 posted on 08/20/2009 9:27:13 AM PDT by the long march
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