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‘Bearing False Witness’: Obama Tells Religious Leaders Health Care Critics Are Guilty of Sin (audio)
Faith for Health ^ | August 19, 2009

Posted on 08/19/2009 6:20:41 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY

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To: Free ThinkerNY
What an Devil Worshipin', Satanic Inspired, Communist!  Invokes the story of Cain "Who Killed" Abel, his very own brother?
 
Ludicrous, unlearned and shows how he is given to taling "Stupidly"
 
And the Lord said unto Cain, Where is Abel thy brother? And he said, I know not: Am I my brother's keeper?
And he [God] said, What hast thou done? the voice of thy brother's blood crieth unto me from the ground.
-- Genesis 4: 9-10 (KJV)
You make what you want of the post but, I have heard Barry O. say on more than one occassion as it is written "We are our brothers/sisters keeper".  Really?  Hope not.
 
False witness?  False Witness?!  So we are now liars?  Not misinformed?  The very things he calls us on the carpet for are in fact in the Eugenicare Bill.  That is pretty aggressive for someone who is suppose to be a uniter.  Name calling?  Yeah, that what's you do when the argument for your idea is weak or non-existent.
 
No take over of Health Insurance?  What is it called when you tell a person that no matter what they are going to have insurance.  Either the plan they are in now, which of course never stays the same or the plan the government, Forces you into.  The same one that will be run as well as the Beurue of Indian Affairs?  The Same one that provides Medicare?  The same one that provides the effieciency of a Post Office?
 
Seriously!  None of these programs will run a profit, which is required to keep up with inflation, provide an incentive for innovation and provide the wages necessary to supporting a medical system of competent care.
 
Barry O. disquises himself and cloaks himself in the sheepskin of the word of God and purposely obfoscates his own message by twisting the actual scripture to his own narrative.
 
He says we are on some Moral imperative.  What Moral imperative? 
 
The one where we tax 40% of the hard working Americans who actually pay taxes? 
 
The Moral imperative where 60% of America does not pay any taxes and in many cases gets a check back from, Who?  The other Americans who step up to the plate every payday, each quarter and at the end of the year and pay the Federal Tax the other 60% do not pay.  That's who!
 
 

41 posted on 08/19/2009 6:52:17 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Actually, I think the problem is the organization “Faith For Health” which the OP referenced [but did not provide a link for]. I have found it but their allusion is odd.


42 posted on 08/19/2009 6:53:00 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: squidly

So not only does his administration call us cowards, angry mobs and extremists, but liars too....and he wonders why he’s meeting resistance, even if it is for the first time in his adult lifetime.


43 posted on 08/19/2009 6:53:11 PM PDT by Freddd (Government run health care=paying more and being denied what we already have.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

...this coming from the man who with no actual knowledge of the events condemned the police for acting stupidly?

Well, he might be right... but he would be wise to really take to heart Proverbs, most especially 16:10-13:

The lips of a king speak as an oracle,
and his mouth should not betray justice.

Honest scales and balances are from the LORD;
all the weights in the bag are of his making.

Kings detest wrongdoing,
for a throne is established through righteousness.

Kings take pleasure in honest lips;
they value a man who speaks the truth.


44 posted on 08/19/2009 6:54:32 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear
I object to those who steal from me in order
that they can tithe to the church of Satan.
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach

45 posted on 08/19/2009 6:55:48 PM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Proof that Obama has no core values and no conscience!

He sits there and accuses others of the very sin he is committing several times a day.

This clown has over reached and will have his hat handed to him.


46 posted on 08/19/2009 6:56:10 PM PDT by G Larry ( Obamacare=Dying in Line!)
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To: Freddd

>So not only does his administration call us cowards, angry mobs and extremists, but liars too....and he wonders why he’s meeting resistance, even if it is for the first time in his adult lifetime.

LOL - Indeed so.
(That could be [more] proof that God DOES have a sense of humor, and does appreciate irony.)


47 posted on 08/19/2009 6:56:22 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
what I consider to be a core ethical and moral obligation,

He shouldn't even go there!

48 posted on 08/19/2009 6:56:43 PM PDT by lonestar (Obama is turning Bush's "mess" into a catastrophe.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Let me name the hospitals in my neck of the woods.

Baptist Hospital East.
Methodist University Hospital.
Veterans Memorial Hospital.
St. Jude Hospital.
Methodist Hospital East
Baptist Hospital South.
St. Francis.
Methodist Hospital East
St. Francis - Bartlett.
Metro Trauma Center.

My casual observation is if it wasn't for the Baptist, the Catholics and the Methodists, the area would have one hospital. Two if you are a veteran. Who's bearing false witness. Please spare me.

49 posted on 08/19/2009 7:01:05 PM PDT by oyez ( damnant quod non intelligunt)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
A pathological liar just called all of us Liars - for that is what "bearing false witness" means.

He reminds of an annoying punk who says, "I know you are, but what am I?"

50 posted on 08/19/2009 7:01:05 PM PDT by Florida native
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Hey Barry, don’t use religion to play your blame game.
You use.....USE....religion when it suits and in this case, not going to work, idiotic one-term moron.


51 posted on 08/19/2009 7:12:02 PM PDT by cranked
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To: G Larry
He sits there and accuses others of the very sin he is committing several times a day.

Narcissists accuse others so as to project their own flaws off onto a scapegoat. It's just that they invest so much energy in doing it. They are fixated on their image to the point that it is uppermost in their mind 100% of the time. It's impossible to overemphasize that.

Like his involvement w/the Gates deal. Whites are racists when it's he who is the racist. No apology says a lot. Barry's campaign mantra - if you don't vote for him, you're a racist. When he was the one going to a 'hate whitey' church. Narcissistic projection.
52 posted on 08/19/2009 7:28:29 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: A message

Does Obama Understand that Compulsion is the Devil’s way?

Freedom to choose between Right and Wrong is the Lord’s way.


53 posted on 08/19/2009 7:35:34 PM PDT by SwedeBoy2
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To: Free ThinkerNY

He is utterly and completely tone-deaf. People detest a slick, self-righteous hypocrite who quotes the Bible to them.

Straight out of Charles Dickens, William Thackeray, or Anthony Trollope.


54 posted on 08/19/2009 7:42:48 PM PDT by BusterBear
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To: Free ThinkerNY

This guy is a lot crazier than I thought.


55 posted on 08/19/2009 7:43:24 PM PDT by truthandlife ("Some trust in chariots and some in horses, but we trust in the name of the LORD our God." (Ps 20:7))
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To: Free ThinkerNY

What he means by a moral responsibility is that the government will take by force from those who have the ability and give it to those who have the need. The government is the enforcer of morality through mandated redistribution of wealth. The goal is to make everyone equally miserable, except for those in government leadership. You can bet that the POTUS and Congress won’t be suffering. The basic problem with socialism is that it refuses to learn from human nature. Socialism doesn’t work. People will not work unless they can enjoy the fruits of their efforts. If the government takes from the producers and gives it to the parasites, society will be filled with parasites and no producers.


56 posted on 08/19/2009 7:51:42 PM PDT by Nosterrex
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To: Free ThinkerNY

That is really rich. This from a guy who aspires to killing as many preborn children as possible, allowing newborns to die if their mommies didn’t want them, and who wants to disallow medical treatment to disabled people and the elderly, because he can’t make use of them to get more money to “redistribute”. He’s a heinous, disingenuous, evil would be dictator who is apparently sociopathic, based on the ease with which he glibly lies to all and sundry, and on the propensity he has for using anyone and anything to achieve his ends, including his friends, his family, and now, apparently, God Himself. He disgusts me to an extent which I have no words to describe. I suspect one morning he will awaken to find he has grown horns and a tail, and smells of brimstone. Won’t come as a surprise to most of us.


57 posted on 08/19/2009 7:53:12 PM PDT by VRWCer (Sarah Palin - the embodiment of the spirit and true grit upon which this great country was founded.)
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To: truthandlife

“This guy is a lot crazier than I thought.”

Yep and those that have wondered aloud if Obama is the anti christ are starting to look like prophets.


58 posted on 08/19/2009 7:53:36 PM PDT by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: Clock King
I think this applies.

For such are false apostles, deceitful workers,
transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.
And no marvel;
for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
Therefore it is no great thing
if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness;
whose end shall be according to their works.

59 posted on 08/19/2009 7:58:48 PM PDT by Yosemitest (It's simple, fight or die.)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear
If this is their new talking point, I think every time one of them tries to use this line, the conservative response should be, “OK, how about you post your W-2 on the Internet for all to see, and we'll see who is the greedy selfish one!”

I can guarantee you 99% of conservatives VOLUNTARILY give 10-20 time more to charity than liberals do!

HOW DARE THEY try to paint us as the greedy selfish ones? They try to assuage their consciences for the evil they have done, by stealing OUR money to give to whoever they think is the victim of the month.

How many of them have ever personally given their own money to charity, or much less to help an individual neighbor? How many of them have ever personally paid the medical bills of someone who supposedly can't get insurance? I'd like to know those numbers! I bet none of them ever have!

I'd like to see them sputter and backpedal when they are exposed for the hypocrites they are.

60 posted on 08/19/2009 8:03:47 PM PDT by boxlunch
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