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Is Benedict in Favor of World Government?
First Things ^ | August 20, 2009 | Douglas A. Sylva

Posted on 08/20/2009 12:30:40 PM PDT by IbJensen

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To: livius

I’m glad to see that there’s one literate person left on FR. Kudos for a post well done.


41 posted on 08/20/2009 5:31:32 PM PDT by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: Quix

Hey, think what you want.


42 posted on 08/20/2009 5:32:22 PM PDT by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: IbJensen
Openness to life is at the center of true development

Any economic system that does not promote the intrinsic value and right to life of the individual human person regardless of his or her economic value is intrinsically immoral.

The acceptance of life strengthens moral fiber and makes people capable of mutual help

Only a society in which the individual human person is valued regardless of his or her economic value can be said to be moral, or, indeed, to be a society.

They can promote virtuous action within the perspective of production that is morally sound and marked by solidarity, respecting the fundamental right to life of every people and individual

Any economic system that in centered solely upon the individual and his or her personal profit is intrinsically immoral. Economic systems that combine free enterprise with the recognition that all human beings have a duty towards one another as children of God can be said to be moral.

See? It's not that hard if you look up the big words.

43 posted on 08/20/2009 6:15:33 PM PDT by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: guitarplayer1953

And you know this how?


44 posted on 08/20/2009 6:17:10 PM PDT by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: NurdlyPeon; IbJensen

“According to Benedict, the goal of all international institutions must be “authentic integral human development.” This human development must be inspired by truth, in this case, the truth about humanity. Pursuit of this truth reveals that each human being possesses absolute worth; therefore, authentic human development is predicated on a radical defense of life.”

Why are you two isolating sentence fragments from his core message?


45 posted on 08/20/2009 6:17:26 PM PDT by G Larry ( Obamacare=Dying in Line!)
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To: G Larry

Explain it.


46 posted on 08/20/2009 6:28:52 PM PDT by IbJensen (If Caltholic voters were true to their faith there would be no abortion and no President Obama.)
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To: B-Chan
Any economic system that in centered solely upon the individual and his or her personal profit is intrinsically immoral.

Just what kind of economic system is being referred to?

How can an economic system be geared to profit just one individual?

Could it mean what Karl referred to? Or Obama? Take from me, so I won't be profiting personally from my efforts and give to Joe Couch Potato, or to the Somalis?

I believe the entire article was written in a poor attempt to moderate the pontiff's more positive stance on world government in his encyclical written several months ago.

Have you read that? I have.

47 posted on 08/20/2009 6:35:38 PM PDT by IbJensen (If Caltholic voters were true to their faith there would be no abortion and no President Obama.)
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To: G Larry
...in this case, the truth about humanity.

What is that truth?

Man was created in God's image and we Christians and Jews are to follow the Ten Commandments. That obedience to the Commandments is what separates us from the godless muslims and heretics.

Is that the truth to which he speaks?

48 posted on 08/20/2009 6:38:17 PM PDT by IbJensen (If Caltholic voters were true to their faith there would be no abortion and no President Obama.)
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To: IbJensen

Cultures can not hope to move forward while denying the sanctity of life. Eugenics, euthenasia, and abortion are the antithesis of the cultural “solutions” to the under-developed nations of the world. This has nothing to do with world government and everything to do with the nations of the world taking this common view of life, in the pursuit of betterment for all without seeking advantage at the expense of others. NO! That is NOT communism! Everyone does the best they can and in that course some will do better than others, but it need not be at the expense of others.


49 posted on 08/20/2009 6:39:49 PM PDT by G Larry ( Obamacare=Dying in Line!)
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To: Quix

Shortly after Benedict became pope I bought a book, supposedly written by the pontiff, that had a short daily essay. It was extremely difficult, if not impossible, to ascertain what it is he is attempting to convey and I am fairly well-educated with a PhD.


50 posted on 08/20/2009 6:43:02 PM PDT by IbJensen (If Caltholic voters were true to their faith there would be no abortion and no President Obama.)
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To: Quix
I understand what you're saying.

It's like an entire diocese engaging an archbishop and all priests to engage in a boycott of restaurant chains to get pressure put on the growers to pay the pickers more money.

Spending diocesan time on things like this instead of saving souls is pointless.

And then there's the sermons couched in newspeak that are meaningless in order to avoid offending the sinners.

51 posted on 08/20/2009 6:46:35 PM PDT by IbJensen (If Caltholic voters were true to their faith there would be no abortion and no President Obama.)
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To: IbJensen

What part of asking the world to focus on the sanctity of life is pointless and unfocused on saving souls?


52 posted on 08/20/2009 6:49:28 PM PDT by G Larry ( Obamacare=Dying in Line!)
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To: G Larry
Everyone does the best they can and in that course some will do better than others, but it need not be at the expense of others.

How about an example of this existing in polite society. Who are you talking about here?

Let me know and and I'll read it in the morning. I'm going to bed to read something enlightening.

53 posted on 08/20/2009 6:50:04 PM PDT by IbJensen (If Caltholic voters were true to their faith there would be no abortion and no President Obama.)
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To: IbJensen

This isn’t that hard...

I work for a large corporation and I do the best I can, but some perform better and get paid better. Their paycheck is not at my expense and my paycheck is not at the expense of an unemployed construction worker.
I have the opportunity to help the less fortunate, but it need not be commanded of me.
On a national level “foreign aid” could be used to truly help others help themselves, but too often we see eugenic policies implemented: BS “green energy” that will never be adequate, no DDT for maleria control, passive acceptance of brutal aggression and a host of other travesties the U.N. ignores, due to their support for “population control”.


54 posted on 08/20/2009 7:06:16 PM PDT by G Larry ( Obamacare=Dying in Line!)
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To: IbJensen

I agree wholeheartedly with your great tagline. I am so angry at Catholics and those of other Christian faiths who voted for this man. WHAT were they thinking? No, they WEREN’T thinking...


55 posted on 08/20/2009 7:39:18 PM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL!)
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To: B-Chan

Cause the bible told me so.


56 posted on 08/20/2009 7:44:55 PM PDT by guitarplayer1953 (Warning: Some words may be misspelled/ You will get over it / Klingon is my 1st language)
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To: IbJensen

WELL PUT


57 posted on 08/20/2009 7:46:33 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: G Larry

Well put.


58 posted on 08/20/2009 7:47:08 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: IbJensen

Magicsterical pontifical bureaucratic political ‘intellectual’ blather

tends to be that way.

Have read overmuch such, myself.

I made sure my Dissertation was not more of the same.


59 posted on 08/20/2009 7:48:19 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: B-Chan

Didn’t exist until around 300-400 AD.


60 posted on 08/20/2009 7:49:43 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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