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To: politicket

“...We’re in a classic deflationary spiral...”

It’s all very confusing to me, because it seems like what the Fed is doing by selling so many bonds (and accumulating so much debt) would be very inflationary, even though, empirically, this does not appear to be the case. I don’t see how we can have so much deficit spending (and accumulated debt) without it leading to inflation, because it seems to me that at some point the debt will be so huge that it can only be managed by paying it off in highly inflated dollars.


37 posted on 08/25/2009 1:23:51 PM PDT by Texan Tory
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To: Texan Tory

Deflationary cycle due to contraction “Ka”, inflationary cycle due to Bernake flooding planet with imaginary money “Poom”. Think of a large rock hitting the water (itulip.com theory).

Commercial and residential real estate: DOA and going down.
Unemployment and CPI: Getting the books cooked by the government as both go up, up, up.
TBILLS: Foreign governments have quit buying them and the FED is monetizing our debt to stay afloat.
If the dollar ceases to be the world reserve currency for any reason: game over, welcome to third world status.

Retail and service sector will be survival of the fittest, lower quality goods and less of them will be sold at the same or higher price to fight over cash strapped customers. Inflation erodes purchasing power as the economy contracts, welcome to the 70’s on steroids.


41 posted on 08/25/2009 2:17:40 PM PDT by Gen-X-Dad
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To: Texan Tory
It’s all very confusing to me, because it seems like what the Fed is doing by selling so many bonds (and accumulating so much debt) would be very inflationary, even though, empirically, this does not appear to be the case.

The Fed is selling Treasury securities on behalf of the Federal government, so these sales do not directly affect the Fed's balance sheet.

The Fed does purchase Treasury securities from Primary Dealers (really big banks) every so often through "POMO's" (Permanent Open Market Operations). They just bought over $6 billion yesterday.

The purchase yesterday meant that the Fed created $6 billion "out of thin air" to give to a Primary Dealer (someone like Goldman Sachs).

The Primay Dealer receives a credit to their Fed account for $6 billion - which they are currently using to artificialy prop up the equities markets (yes, this "rally" is a fraud).

The Fed receive $6 billion of Treasury securities from the Primary Dealer in return. This counts as a $6 billion asset on the Fed's balance sheet.

Balance sheets must stay "in balance" - meaning their has to be a $6 billion liabiity created. In the past, the Fed has increased "excess reserves" (a liability) to the Primary Dealers to offset the asset purchase. This is how they're able to purchase hundreds of billions of Mortgage-backed securities and still keep their balance sheet intact.

The Fed has taken a different direction with their Treasury security purchases. They have decreased their "currency swap" assets by the same amount in order for things to even out. This means that foreign countries now have fewer U.S. dollars being "swapped" for their currency, which can affect international trade since most of it is done in dollars.

To make a long story longer, the Fed carries a liability entry on their balance sheet that is "currency in circulation". This number has not gone up very much since early last year.

It is impossible to have major inflation unless the amount of currency circulating in the economy goes way up - it hasn't.

There is a danger that big banks could begin using their "excess reserves" to fund loans. This would definitely drive inflation, since it would cause more money to circulate.

However, the Fed is currently paying interest on those excess reserves that discourages big banks from lending it out into the economy - or even lending it to other banks as an overnight loan.

Aren't you sorry you asked? ;-)

47 posted on 08/25/2009 2:39:00 PM PDT by politicket (1 1/2 million attended Obama's coronation - only 14 missed work!)
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To: Texan Tory
It’s all very confusing to me, because it seems like what the Fed is doing by selling so many bonds

What bonds do you think the Fed is selling?

(and accumulating so much debt) would be very inflationary

If the Fed sells bonds, they are reducing the money supply. That would be deflationary, not inflationary.

48 posted on 08/25/2009 2:44:14 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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