Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Summer of our discontent: Why is America so angry?
McClatchy Newspapers ^ | 29 Aug 2009 | Steven Thomma

Posted on 08/29/2009 6:43:41 AM PDT by BGHater

click here to read article


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-79 last
To: DownInFlames
It’s going to get a whole lot uglier when the Pubies win big in 2010.

They'll do the same thing they did the last time they were in power. Nothing.

61 posted on 08/29/2009 8:22:47 AM PDT by Mojave (Don't blame me. I voted for McClintock.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 21 | View Replies]

To: y6162

“I agree. The Kenyan is setting up a communist government - We are still in the quiet before the storm. All hell is going to break loose.”

He is racing to put all of the pieces of the puzzle together. Control over the internet, His jack booted civilian corp. Fairness doctrine, Bog down the military in Afghanistan, cripple the CIA, Disarm America, Buddy up to as many dictator thugs as possible, Put as many people out of work as possible to create a dependent class, Try to create as big a crisis as He can – H1N1, further bank crisis etc. to name a few of his attack strategies.

I think people are total naïve to believe that this POS and his goon squad congress have any good intent for America!
Yeah the time is coming soon! Then you will see ugly!!


62 posted on 08/29/2009 8:42:19 AM PDT by timetostand
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 35 | View Replies]

To: The Great RJ
Let's hope that this anger continues through the 2012 elections or our Republic is doomed.

I still find it curious to think that we are pinning "hope" on the idea that those who have seized absolute power are going to relinquish any bit of it by means of an electoral process. We have seen the last of free and fair elections.

63 posted on 08/29/2009 8:43:26 AM PDT by Mygirlsmom (The only reason we're " wee-wee'd up" is that the Left has been PISSING On AMERICA for too long now.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 45 | View Replies]

To: Mygirlsmom

Agree! you can’t depend on fair elections anymore!


64 posted on 08/29/2009 8:45:18 AM PDT by timetostand
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 63 | View Replies]

To: hinckley buzzard
Or in the broad of the back, between the shoulder blades.

I learned a long tome ago never to ignore it.

65 posted on 08/29/2009 8:45:42 AM PDT by Clive
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 58 | View Replies]

To: BGHater

Yes, there’s “talk radio, Fox, and the internet,” but pretty soon there will no longer be a McClatchy.


66 posted on 08/29/2009 8:53:33 AM PDT by Malesherbes (Sauve Qui Peut)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Uncle Ike
Wait till Congress has the gall to ram through this health care abomination. You ain't SEEN "angry ..."

This two-bit dictator is going to do what it took Jefferson Davis and half a century of overheated abolitionist rhetoric to do the first time.

67 posted on 08/29/2009 9:35:18 AM PDT by IronJack (=)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 27 | View Replies]

To: y6162
"Untold numbers of Americans seethe with anger at Obama and his fellow Democrats, resentment coupled with fear even more intense than the rage other Americans expressed just a year ago at George W. Bush and the Republicans. One telling sign: The comparisons of the president to Hitler remain the same — only the face has changed from Bush to Obama. "

---<>---<>---<>---<>---<>---

WRONG - it is not only the FACE that has changed, it is also the POLICIES.

The goal of the current "Progressives" that are in power is one-world government, and this is one part of their strategy to achieve it. They are almost Fascists in the government they espouse. It is time to again post my detailed argument about this- apologies to those who have already seen and absorbed it.

- - - -

People are now realizing just what the word "Progressive" means. The leftists needed a new name in America when the voters permanently soured on the direction "liberals" were pulling the country.

These super-liberals who call themselves "PROGRESSIVE" espouse a new form of government that is actually a synthesis of two previously existing government forms: Communism and Fascism.

When many use the word “fascist” they are simply using it as a pejorative. When people were calling Bush “fascist”, that was simply a smear. When I challenged them to define fascist, and they were unable to respond, I educated them. That reduced them to calling him monkey instead. Dear Leader has been RULING as a fascist (most recently demonstrated by his town hall antics) as I will demonstrate.

However, when using "Fascist" here, I am NOT using it as a pejorative. It's an attempt to describe as accurately as possible the system of government they espouse and are trying to bring about. I ran into a problem, though, when researching the question.

I excerpt part of http://open-encyclopedia.com/Fascism as a base for the analysis.

The word fascism has come to mean any system of government resembling Mussolini's, that

... The purpose of the government under fascism proper was to value itself as the highest priority to its culture in just being the state in itself, the larger scope of which, the better...

... The Nazi movement spoke of class-based society as the enemy, and wanted to unify the racial element above established classes. The Fascist movement, on the other hand, sought to preserve the class system and uphold it as the foundation of established and desirable culture...

...Fascism rejects the central tenets of Marxism, which are class struggle, and the need to replace capitalism with a society run by the working class in which the workers own the means of production. ...

[Fascism includes] capitalism ... This was a new capitalist system, however, one in which the state seized control of the organization of vital industries.

Look at the agenda the Progressives have undertaken since gaining control of Congress in 2006, and indeed before that time. Control of business, reduction of personal liberty, using propaganda and censorship to suppress opposition, social regimentation, higher taxes which again reduces personal liberty, expanding national government everywhere, even severe regimentation passing laws about light bulbs and on and on. Much of their agenda and methodology is VERY fascist.

However, bullet points 1 & 4 give us a problem whether we use nationalism or racism. Progressives certainly never goad people into a frenzy by extolling the virtues of the United States so are not nationalists in the typical sense of the word. They don’t use racism that way, either- they merely use it as a pejorative. Thus, we are not quite accurate in equating Progressivism with Fascism.

A digression concerning Nazi (National Socialist) vs. Fascist: Nazi is a subset of Fascist, but that subset does not include any more Progressive traits than Fascist.

What actually is needed to describe Progressives is Fascism that is NOT nationalist, at least nationalism in the sense of promotion of their nation as superior.

They are not Socialist (Marxist), either. When have you EVER heard a Progressive politician or any of the Democrats extol the virtues of having a classless society? Certainly they don't desire that for themselves or their rich donors! They are definitely in favor of a classes, with themselves in the highest class.

This brings up the following, from the same main source: http://open-encyclopedia.com/Communism

In terms of socio-economic systems, communism and socialism are two different things. For example, socialism involves the existence of a state, while communism does not...[and] abolishes private ownership altogether.

I’ve heard it argued that Communism has never been implemented, as a result. Apologies to Marx and Engels, but it is the supporters of communism who make that argument. Communism as it is now defined requires that there be NO “state”.

This helps us gain some ground. Communism shares this major feature of "no state" with Progressivism! So, where are we now?

These super-liberals, including Dear Leader and those who are currently running congress, have been pushing CapNTax, ObamaCare, apologies for the US, making nice with sworn enemies, international law, eliminating military superiority, etc.. In nearly EVERY area of our culture or economy that they have been pushing most fervently, they push for a leveling of the US with other nations, and attempt to remove national differences and boundaries. These fit with Communism, except that they have NO DESIRE to eliminate "classes" of people, or that the state OWN business- they only wish to CONTROL business as in Fascism (they have stated that they don't want to run the banks or auto companies) and they don't mind that their favored elites are billionaires, just as in fascism. Like fascism, they desire to control individual thought and behavior and forcibly suppress dissent.

Either we stipulate that the “whole world” is the “nation” for Dear Leader et al, to accurately describe their government philosophy, and state they are "ONE-WORLD FASCISTS", or we need a new word to describe their desired governmental system.

A word that would accurately synthesize their thinking is:

CommuFascist

The important point, though, is that whether this philosophy is labeled CommuFascist, or “Progressive” or One-World Fascists, analysis reveals that Dear Leader, Pelosi, and these super-liberals are espousing a MORE EXTREME FORM of Fascism and VERY extreme form of liberalism. Dear Leader is a “one-world” Mussolini.

Far from being pejorative, analysis reveals I was being generous when I was describing them as Fascist, not pejorative. I might be calling them something more extreme instead, “Progressive” or equivalently, CommuFascist.

68 posted on 08/29/2009 10:32:18 AM PDT by AFPhys ((Praying for our troops, our citizens, that the Bible and Freedom become basis of the US law again))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Mojave
It’s going to get a whole lot uglier when the Pubies win big in 2010.

They'll do the same thing they did the last time they were in power. Nothing.

I'll take "nothing" over what the kenyan's trying to do.

69 posted on 08/29/2009 10:33:29 AM PDT by VoiceOfBruck (Always be a good boy, don't ever play with guns)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 61 | View Replies]

To: Charles Martel

I had a package delivered to my new address and the UPS guy got snotty about the contents. Rather than try to find an answer that might be acceptable to an obvious anti-gun bigot, I just smiled and shrugged my shoulders at him.

...and then changed the address for every subsequent delivery to a friends house where the UPS driver is also an enthusiast...;’}


70 posted on 08/29/2009 10:47:49 AM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 53 | View Replies]

Bookmarked for later


71 posted on 08/29/2009 10:56:15 AM PDT by Freedom2specul8 (I am Jim Thompson............................Please pray for our troops....)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: rockrr

I’ve never encountered that particular problem, but then I’ve lived most of my life in Louisiana and Texas. :-)


72 posted on 08/29/2009 11:18:32 AM PDT by Charles Martel (NRA Lifetime Member since 1984; TSRA rookie)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 70 | View Replies]

To: Charles Martel

I have no doubt that makes a big difference - I live in the “deep blue”...;’{


73 posted on 08/29/2009 11:22:11 AM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 72 | View Replies]

To: BGHater; All
Here's what I wrote at our sister site, in response to a whine from Peggy Noonan:

‘You Are Terrifying Us’


Who's this "Us" you're talking about, White Woman?

( To paraphrase that old Jay Silverheels/Lone Ranger joke... )

You- up there in the KultureSmog of the beltway-- might be feeling a little "terror"- visions of peasants with pitchforks, tar & feathers, tumbrels & guillotines, coming for those who want to "rule" us probably do that...

Out here in Flyover Country?

We're furious.

At being ignored by people we hire with our votes.

At seeing contract law abrogated at a whim, by a guy who may not even be qualified to hold office.

At seeing our economic powerhouse squandered away in handouts to cronies.

And a whole lot of other things, besides.

74 posted on 08/29/2009 12:03:52 PM PDT by backhoe (All across America, the Lights are going out...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: pieceofthepuzzle
"Nationalism’ has become defined in the most negative sense..."

YEP...what was that word the "pressers" used....I can't think of it right now, but it made me soooo angry....it effectively said....nationalism is NOT good.

75 posted on 08/29/2009 1:52:39 PM PDT by goodnesswins (Tell everyone, DEMS are the RACISTS...they created the KKK and Jim Crow Laws...to start)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 29 | View Replies]

To: y6162

“At least when the Kenyan becomes dictator, he’ll allow golf.”

How do you know that?

(Just asking.)


76 posted on 08/31/2009 4:48:41 AM PDT by ripley
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 51 | View Replies]

To: ripley

“At least when the Kenyan becomes dictator, he’ll allow golf.”

Apparently the Kenyan like’s to golf. I assume he wouldn’t prevent other golfers. He smokes his cigs while out of reach of his wookie too.


77 posted on 08/31/2009 5:27:04 AM PDT by y6162 (uish..)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 76 | View Replies]

To: BGHater

As always, when Democrats get mad, it’s “passion” and “conviction” and when Republicans get mad it’s “anger” and “ugliness.”

We see through you, MSM.


78 posted on 08/31/2009 5:40:36 AM PDT by denydenydeny ("I'm sure this goes against everything you've been taught, but right and wrong do exist"-Dr House)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: gov_bean_ counter
The Farce is strong with him...

Kenya believe it?

79 posted on 08/31/2009 5:44:58 AM PDT by Fresh Wind ("Prosperity is just around the corner." Herbert Hoover, 1932)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-79 last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson