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Small Fluctuations In Solar Activity, Large Influence On Climate
ScienceDaily ^ | Aug. 28, 2009 | ScienceDaily

Posted on 08/30/2009 6:25:03 AM PDT by Salman

Subtle connections between the 11-year solar cycle, the stratosphere, and the tropical Pacific Ocean work in sync to generate periodic weather patterns that affect much of the globe, according to research appearing this week in the journal Science. The study can help scientists get an edge on eventually predicting the intensity of certain climate phenomena, such as the Indian monsoon and tropical Pacific rainfall, years in advance.

An international team of scientists led by the National Center for Atmospheric Research (NCAR) used more than a century of weather observations and three powerful computer models to tackle one of the more difficult questions in meteorology: if the total energy that reaches Earth from the Sun varies by only 0.1 percent across the approximately 11-year solar cycle, how can such a small variation drive major changes in weather patterns on Earth?

The answer, according to the new study, has to do with the Sun's impact on two seemingly unrelated regions. Chemicals in the stratosphere and sea surface temperatures in the Pacific Ocean respond during solar maximum in a way that amplifies the Sun's influence on some aspects of air movement. This can intensify winds and rainfall, change sea surface temperatures and cloud cover over certain tropical and subtropical regions, and ultimately influence global weather.

(Excerpt) Read more at sciencedaily.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: climate; environment; solar
So the answer is -- yes there is climate change, but ...
1 posted on 08/30/2009 6:25:03 AM PDT by Salman
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To: Salman

Ever since Al Gore proved you could get silly rich combining a power point presentation with a scissors trolley, everyone wants to destroy his fun.


2 posted on 08/30/2009 6:39:18 AM PDT by Tarpon (The Joker's plan -- Slavery by debt so large it can never be repaid...)
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To: Salman

Deniers! Global warming heretics! The teachings of St. Algore clearly say that man is the sole cause of global warming and no more scientific inquiry is necessary as a “consensus” of scientists have agreed with this dogma. (sarcasm)


3 posted on 08/30/2009 6:44:52 AM PDT by The Great RJ ("The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money." M. Thatcher)
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To: Salman

“there is climate change”

Never stopped changing...never will. Anyone who thinks otherwise is a FOOL.


4 posted on 08/30/2009 6:47:32 AM PDT by wolfcreek (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsd7DGqVSIc)
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To: The Great RJ
Deniers! Global warming heretics!

Read the article more closely and you might find that they're trying to open the door to the prospect of man-made global warming through a bit more subtle means.

5 posted on 08/30/2009 6:47:36 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham ("Baldrick, to you the Renaissance was just something that happened to other people, wasn't it?")
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To: The Great RJ

That said, I once ran the calculations on the 0.05% increase in solar luminosity we had through the 1990s. It ended up with the increase in delivered total power to the Earth being 5 times LARGER than all the power consumption of man.

The sun's change in output was 5 times larger than our entire contribution. How they can look at that and determine it's man's fault is staggering!

6 posted on 08/30/2009 6:49:04 AM PDT by PugetSoundSoldier (Indignation over the Sting of Truth is the Defense of the Indefensible)
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To: Salman

Ah, yes...global warming; a “balmy” 54 degrees here in SE Michigan this morning.


7 posted on 08/30/2009 6:49:20 AM PDT by OldBlondBabe
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To: Salman; All
Although sunspot cycle 24 is VERY slow to get underway (decades-long records are being broken for low minimum period activity), over the course of the past 80-100 years sunspot numbers have actually been through the roof (during *peak periods* of the 11-year solar activity cycle throughout this 80-100 yr period). Cycle-24 is not expected to get really busy for a few more years yet, possibly not until around 2013 they're saying now. Will the high level of sunspot activity continue when the peak finally arrives?. We will see. -etl

The following which I pieced together, describes a possible connection between the sunspot/solar activity cycle and climate.

If you look at the chart below, you will see that sunspot activity (during solar maxes--the individual peaks every apprx 11 yrs) has been relatively high since about 1900 and almost non-existent for the period between about 1625 and 1725. This period is known as the Maunder (sunspot) Minimum or "Little Ice Age".-etl


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From BBC News [yr: 2004]:
"A new [2004] analysis shows that the Sun is more active now than it has been at anytime in the previous 1,000 years. Scientists based at the Institute for Astronomy in Zurich used ice cores from Greenland to construct a picture of our star's activity in the past. They say that over the last century the number of sunspots rose at the same time that the Earth's climate became steadily warmer."..."In particular, it has been noted that between about 1645 and 1715, few sunspots were seen on the Sun's surface.

This period is called the Maunder Minimum after the English astronomer who studied it. It coincided with a spell of prolonged cold weather often referred to as the "Little Ice Age". Solar scientists strongly suspect there is a link between the two events - but the exact mechanism remains elusive."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/3869753.stm
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It's really hard to imagine how this little ball of fire could have any impact on our climate at all. /s

But the main arguments being made for a solar-climate connection is not so much to do with the heat of the Sun (the sun isn't necessarily getting warmer) but rather with its magnetic cycles. When the Sun is more magnetically active (typically around the peak of the 11-year sunspot cycle --we are a few yrs away at the moment), the Sun's magnetic field is better able to deflect away incoming galactic cosmic rays (highly energetic charged particles coming from outside the solar system). The GCRs are thought to help in the formation of low-level cumulus clouds -the type of clouds that BLOCK sunlight and help cool the Earth. So when the Sun's MF is acting up (not like now -the next sunspot max is expected in about 2013, according to the latest predictions), less GCRs reach the Earth's atmosphere, less low level, sunlight-blocking clouds form, and more sunlight gets through to warm the Earth's surface...naturally. Clouds are basically made up of tiny water droplets. When minute particles in the atmosphere become ionized by incoming GCRs they become very 'attractive' to water molecules, in a purely chemical sense of the word. The process by which the Sun's increased magnetic field deflects incoming cosmic rays is very similar to the way magnetic fields steer electrons in a cathode ray tube (old-time television tube) or electrons and other charged particles around the ring of a subatomic particle accelerator.-etl
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From 2008...

The Center for Sun-Climate Research at the DNSC (Danish National Space Center) investigates the connection between variations in the intensity of cosmic rays and climatic changes on Earth. This field of research has been given the name 'cosmoclimatology'"..."Cosmic ray intensities – and therefore cloudiness – keep changing because the Sun's magnetic field varies in its ability to repel cosmic rays coming from the Galaxy, before they can reach the Earth." :
http://www.spacecenter.dk/research/sun-climate
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From a well-referenced wikipedia.com column (see wiki link for ref 14):
"Sunspot numbersover the past 11,400 years have been reconstructed using dendrochronologically dated radiocarbon concentrations. The level of solar activity during the past 70 years is exceptional — the last period of similar magnitude occurred over 8,000 years ago. The Sun was at a similarly high level of magnetic activity for only ~10% of the past 11,400 years, and almost all of the earlier high-activity periods were shorter than the present episode.[14]"

[14] ^Solanki, Sami K.; Usoskin, Ilya G.; Kromer, Bernd; Schüssler, Manfred & Beer, Jürg (2004), “Unusual activity of the Sun during recent decades compared to the previous 11,000 years”, Nature 431: 1084–1087, doi:10.1038/nature02995, . Retrieved on 17 April 2007 , "11,000 Year Sunspot Number Reconstruction". Global Change Master Directory. Retrieved on 2005-03-11.


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"Reconstruction of solar activity over 11,400 years. Period of equally high activity over 8,000 years ago marked.
Present period is on [the right]. Values since 1900 not shown."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_variation
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From NASA's Solar and Heliospheric Observatory's "Not So Frequently Asked Questions" section:

Q-Does the number of sunspots have any effect on the climate here on Earth?

A-Sunspots are slightly cooler areas on the surface of the Sun, due to the intense magnetic fields, so they radiate a little less energy than the surroundings. However, there are usually nearby areas associated with the sunspots that are a little hotter (called falculae), and they more than compensate. The result is that there is a little bit more radiation coming from the Sun when it has more sunspots, but the effect is so small that it has very little impact on the weather and climate on Earth.

However, there are more important indirect effects: sunspots are associated with what we call "active regions", with large magnetic structures containing very hot material (being held in place by the magnetism). This causes more ultraviolet (or UV) radiation (the rays that give you a suntan or sunburn), and extreme ultraviolet radiation (EUV). These types of radiation have an impact on the chemistry of the upper atmosphere (e.g. producing ozone). Since some of these products act as greenhouse gases, the number of sunspots (through association with active regions) may influence the climate in this way.

Many active regions produce giant outflows of material that are called Coronal Mass Ejections. These ejections drag with them some of the more intense magnetic fields that are found in the active regions. The magnetic fields act as a shield for high-energy particles coming from various sources in our galaxy (outside the solar system). These "cosmic rays" (CRs) cause ionization of molecules in the atmosphere, and thereby can cause clouds to form (because the ionized molecules or dust particle can act as "seeds" for drop formation).

If clouds are formed very high in the atmosphere, the net result is a heating of the Earth - it acts as a "blanket" that keeps warmth in.

If clouds are formed lower down in the atmosphere, they reflect sunlight better than they keep heat inside, so the net result is cooling. Which processes are dominant is still a matter of research.

http://sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov/classroom/notsofaq.html#SUNSPOT_CLIMATE
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NASA graph of sunspot activity over the past 400 years [note the profound lack of sunspot activity during the "Little Ice Age" period (apprx 1650-1720), AND the sharp INCREASE particularly during the past 60 years:

http://science.nasa.gov/ssl/pad/solar/images/ssn_yearly.jpg
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100,000-Year Climate Pattern Linked To Sun's Magnetic Cycles:

ScienceDaily (Jun. 7, 2002) HANOVER, N.H.
Thanks to new calculations by a Dartmouth geochemist, scientists are now looking at the earth's climate history in a new light. Mukul Sharma, Assistant Professor of Earth Sciences at Dartmouth, examined existing sets of geophysical data and noticed something remarkable: the sun's magnetic activity is varying in 100,000-year cycles, a much longer time span than previously thought, and this solar activity, in turn, may likely cause the 100,000-year climate cycles on earth. This research helps scientists understand past climate trends and prepare for future ones.
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2002/06/020607073439.htm

8 posted on 08/30/2009 7:02:14 AM PDT by ETL (ALL the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: Salman; According2RecentPollsAirIsGood; TenthAmendmentChampion; Horusra; Delacon; Entrepreneur; ...
 


Beam me to Planet Gore !

9 posted on 08/30/2009 7:21:07 AM PDT by steelyourfaith ("Power is not alluring to pure minds." - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: ETL

Has any work been done on cosmic rays and the influence on climate? Would its strength/weakness be noted in the incidence of “nothern lights”?


10 posted on 08/30/2009 7:32:46 AM PDT by Melchior
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To: Melchior
Has any work been done on cosmic rays and the influence on climate?

From 2008...

The Center for Sun-Climate Research at the DNSC (Danish National Space Center) investigates the connection between variations in the intensity of cosmic rays and climatic changes on Earth. This field of research has been given the name 'cosmoclimatology'"..."Cosmic ray intensities – and therefore cloudiness – keep changing because the Sun's magnetic field varies in its ability to repel cosmic rays coming from the Galaxy, before they can reach the Earth." :
http://www.spacecenter.dk/research/sun-climate

11 posted on 08/30/2009 7:50:29 AM PDT by ETL (ALL the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: Melchior
Would its strength/weakness be noted in the incidence of “nothern lights”?

The NLs are triggered by relative low energy cosmic rays from the Sun. The GRs that may be involved in past climate changes originate from far outside the solar system and are many times more energetic. They are known as Galactic Cosmic Rays (GCRs), as opposed to 'solar wind particles' from the Sun. GCRs are thought to be emitted from distant super nova explosions. They rain down on our solar system continuously, unless blocked by increased magnetic/solar activity from the Sun.

12 posted on 08/30/2009 7:56:27 AM PDT by ETL (ALL the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: Salman
"yes there is climate change, but "

Note that the terms "climate change" and "global warming" are totally absent from this story. There is a clear problem with the Warmists accepting the fact that sun spots influence climate. Once sun spots are realistically included in the global warming models, there is no remaining variability left for CO2. Thus, it's best for them to disassociate climate from sun spots before someone realizes that global warming is not caused by driving SUV's.

13 posted on 08/30/2009 8:16:22 AM PDT by norwaypinesavage (Global Warming Theory is extremely robust with respect to data. All observations confirm it)
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To: Salman
This gets my votes as “Most Posted Aticle of the Week.”

For more comments, see these threads:


14 posted on 08/30/2009 8:22:33 AM PDT by cc2k (When less than half the voters pay taxes, it's called "taxation without representation.")
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To: ETL

Thank you. The information is most appreciated.


15 posted on 08/30/2009 8:30:26 AM PDT by Melchior
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To: Melchior; All
Climate debate and FAQ

What is climate research at the DNSC [Danish National Space Center]?

The Earth’s climate is always changing. This has been the case in the geological and historical time and even during the last 150 years, where systematic climate measurements have been made, we have seen clear climate changes.

Climate changes have both a scientific and a social perspective. The social perspective is associated with the range of climate change that can be attributed to the increasing human induced contribution. The scientific perspective is an endeavour to understand the full complex system of the various sources of climate change and their mutual interactions.

The Danish National Space Center, DNSC, comprises the country's largest collected expertise in the scientific disciplines that play a major and documented role in the understanding of climate change both in geological and historical time, namely variations in solar activity. DNSC regards it essential that this collected expertise is being used in an attempt to understand the natural causes of climate change in order to evaluate the contribution of natural causes to global change. Taking into account the large uncertainty associated with the estimated human contribution, a good research based estimate of the range of natural climate variations is an essential information.

DNSC is basing its effort in this area on own scientific results – observational, experimental, and theoretical. The scientific results have been published internationally and indicate that the varying activity of the Sun is indeed the largest and most systematic contributor to natural climate variations. The effect goes through solar modulation of the cosmic radiation, which affects the formation of aerosols and thereby also the formation of clouds. Even though a physical mechanism connecting cosmic rays to aerosol formation has been found experimentally, no climate model has yet made an attempt to include such an effect.

That there exists a significant contribution from solar activity variations to global temperature increase does not, however, exclude other contributions to the rising global temperature, natural as well as human. DNSC, however, is focused on establishing the best possible and scientifically based evaluation of the size of solar induced effects on climate.

Why is the climate changing?

Climate is subject to influences by both natural and human forces, including greenhouse gases, aerosols, solar activity, and land use change. The climate system is extremely complex and any estimate of the human contribution to climate change is very uncertain.

What are the natural causes to climate change?

Changes in the Sun contribute to climate change. Solar activity has been exceptionally high in the 20th century compared to the last 400 years and possibly compared to the past 8,000 years. When solar activity is high, the flux of galactic cosmic rays is reduced due to increased magnetic shielding by the Sun. The cosmic rays may influence Earths climate through formation of low lying clouds.

How can cosmic rays influence cloud formation?

Cosmic rays ionize the atmosphere and an experiment performed at the Danish National Space Center has found that the production of aerosols in a sample atmosphere with condensable gases (such as sulphuric acid and water vapor) depends on the amount of ionization. Since aerosols work as precursors for formation of cloud droplets, this is an indication that cosmic rays affect climate.

Climate models only include the effects of the small variations in the direct solar radiation (infrared, visible and UV). The effects of cosmic rays on clouds are not included in models and the models do a rather poor job of simulating clouds in the present climate. Since cloud feedbacks are a large source of uncertainty, this is a reason for concern when viewing climate model predictions.

http://www.spacecenter.dk/research/sun-climate/climate-debate-and-faq
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The author of the following book is the head researcher at the above Danish National Space Center (DNSC)...


16 posted on 08/30/2009 8:31:50 AM PDT by ETL (ALL the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: Salman
Typical leftie "New Scientist" BS....

They went back 100 years.....

WRONG

Ignored the 400 years Maunder Minimum (mini ice age) that ended around 1875

Why don't they just come out and say it...

No Sunspots

17 posted on 08/30/2009 11:08:41 AM PDT by spokeshave (Obama can't unjump the shark)
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To: spokeshave

Correction....make that a 1775


18 posted on 08/30/2009 11:14:22 AM PDT by spokeshave (Obama can't unjump the shark)
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To: PugetSoundSoldier
That said, I once ran the calculations on the 0.05% increase in solar luminosity we had through the 1990s. It ended up with the increase in delivered total power to the Earth being 5 times LARGER than all the power consumption of man.

If the Sun stopped shining altogether, then Earth's temp would drop towards -459 F (absolute zero). If the Sun's output doubled, the Earth's temp would edge towards 600 degrees. Against this scale, small variations in solar output would have big effects in terms of human-comfortable temperature range.

19 posted on 08/30/2009 11:25:58 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Public healthcare looks like it will work as well as public housing did.)
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To: Salman
Liberals will figure out a way to use the natural fluctuations of the Sun to force draconian totalitarian measures on the American middle class. Really - it's who they are...
20 posted on 08/30/2009 3:11:46 PM PDT by GOPJ (Socialism : "Envy" gussied up as a political cause...... David Horowitz)
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