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Pro-abortion politicians risk excommunication
thenews.pl ^ | 03.09.2009

Posted on 09/03/2009 1:14:57 PM PDT by lizol

Pro-abortion politicians risk excommunication

03.09.2009 20:12

Polish bishops are reminding Catholic politicians that if they support abortion, they risk excommunication from the Church.

Reiterating Church teaching on the value of “healthy families” and a call for more “pro-family politics” are the central messages of a newly released Polish Episcopate document, To serve the truth about marriage and family.

But what has drawn most attention is a very clear and straightforward warning to Catholic politicians: that if they violate basic moral directives on life or family rights issues in the public sphere, they risk excommunication.

The document is a compilation of Church doctrine on the value of family life - and the duties of society towards the family - as the crucial fundament of every healthy society.

Drafted by the Council for Family Issues at the Polish Episcopate, it talks openly and directly about what it sees as the evils of abortion, IVF and experimentation on embryos, but also of families broken by divorce or promiscuity.

“As John Paul II was saying just before he died, we are witnessing very strong, organized attacks on marriage and family, which could also serve to destroy the Christian spirit of Europe,“ says Father Andrzej Rębacz, head of the Episcopate Council for Family Affairs and the National Chaplain for Families.

“These attacks include promotion of sex education at schools. We have to remember who was the first to introduce the idea of sex education. It was communist ideologue György Lukács in Hungary, who thought promiscuity was the best method to fight the institution of marriage, in order to fight Christianity.”

Politicians beware

The part of the 100 page document which has drawn most attention is where it discusses the duties of Catholic politicians.

"It is absolutely not true that a politician, or a government member, has to, or can, act against his conscience. (...) When it comes to God's law, everybody is equal, politicians included," the bishops write in the document. It also reiterates Church Law, according to which, anyone who publicly contradicts fundamental moral values - such as the commandment "Thou shall not kill,” by voicing support or acceptance of abortion, should be immediately excommunicated from the Church.

“It should be obvious to every Catholic. If you are pro-abortion and keep it to yourself, you are guilty of a mortal sin, and until you confess, you cannot go to Communion,” says Wojciech Cejrowski, writer, journalist and Catholic commentator.

“However, if you publicly support abortion, then you excommunicate yourself,” he says.

Protests followed when Health Minister Ewa Kopacz, who identifies herself as a Catholic, was reported to have arranged an abortion for a 14-year old, last year. Catholic groups brought up the question of excommunication back then and some politicians protested.

Private and public

Janusz Onyszkiewicz, a member of the Democratic Party, who refuses to disclose whether he considers himself a Catholic, is critical of the bishops' letter and says Catholic politicians should leave their moral values to their private lives.

“I don't want to discuss Church teaching,“ he says. “I think, obviously, the Church should expect everybody who belongs to the Church to follow a certain moral code. But it is different to follow it in private life and to work on the legal system of the country.”

Member of the European Parliament for the Law and Justice party, Konrad Szymański, disagrees. He says politicians, too, should keep their public and private lives consistent, and if they declare themselves Catholic, they should practice what they preach.

“I've read the letter with great satisfaction, because bishops have reminded us very simple truths: that the obligation of conscience is much more important than any other obligation, including political obligations,” he says.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: abortion; catholic; poland; prolife
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1 posted on 09/03/2009 1:14:58 PM PDT by lizol
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To: lizol

I get kind of tired of hearing that they “risk” excommunication. Call me when one a actually gets kicked out.


2 posted on 09/03/2009 1:17:09 PM PDT by Sloth (Ted Kennedy's brain tumor has killed more people than my gun.)
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To: lizol

The Church in Poland gets it right!


3 posted on 09/03/2009 1:17:35 PM PDT by Palladin (Obamacare=Emanuelcare=Mengelecare!)
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To: lizol

Why excommunication in Poland but not the United States? Something different about the Catholic church in America?


4 posted on 09/03/2009 1:18:44 PM PDT by Ben Mugged (Unions are the storm troopers of socialism.)
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To: lizol
Polish bishops are reminding Catholic politicians that if they support abortion, they risk excommunication from the Church.

Hopefully the bishops in Poland are more faithful than the bishops in America are [*cough*Kennedy*cough*Pelosi*cough*Kerry*cough*].

5 posted on 09/03/2009 1:20:37 PM PDT by Alex Murphy (One man, alone! Betrayed by the country he loves, now its last hope in their final hour of need!)
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6 posted on 09/03/2009 1:21:59 PM PDT by lizol
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To: lizol

The church has done nothing for 40 years - why start now.


7 posted on 09/03/2009 1:23:29 PM PDT by edcoil (If I had 1 cent for every dollar the government saved, Bill Gates and I would be friends.)
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To: edcoil

Agreed. It would be great to see the AmChurch get some backbone and at least refuse communion to Giuliani, Pelosi, and the entire Kennedy family.


8 posted on 09/03/2009 1:24:15 PM PDT by Clemenza (Remember our Korean War Veterans)
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To: Sloth

Actually - they automatically get “kicked out”, when they support abortion. Their excommunication doesn’t have to be announced. It just happens in such a case.


9 posted on 09/03/2009 1:25:08 PM PDT by lizol
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To: lizol
Pro-abortion politicians risk excommunication

One question: Why has it taken so long?

10 posted on 09/03/2009 1:25:15 PM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (FUBO - No socialist Bureaucrat on a Death Panel is going to decide whether I live or die!)
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To: lizol

Doubtful any excommunication will ever happen. I am really losing faith in the Church after it extended graces to Kennedy.


11 posted on 09/03/2009 1:29:03 PM PDT by lesko
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To: lesko

It has?

Well, maybe he had confessed his sins before he died, and regreted them.

If not - poor guy - it must be really hot down there.


12 posted on 09/03/2009 1:31:32 PM PDT by lizol
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To: lizol
That's right. For instance: according to canon law, a person who procures a completed abortion automatically excommunicates himself.

Pro-abortion politicians may not have explicitly procured an abortion, but in a way they may have helped to procure thousands of them.

This is why clergy say 'risk excommunication' - because the language of Latae_sententiae doesn't say 'pro-abortionist politician' - it says 'procure an abortion'.

13 posted on 09/03/2009 1:32:47 PM PDT by agere_contra
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To: lizol

What risk???

Where in America are the ex-communications of abortion advocates actually happening???


14 posted on 09/03/2009 1:36:12 PM PDT by TheFourthMagi
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To: agere_contra
Sorry, I should have added In my opinion this is why clergy say 'risk excommunication'
15 posted on 09/03/2009 1:36:42 PM PDT by agere_contra
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To: lizol

Oh yeah, in POLAND, maybe. Let me know when it happens here.


16 posted on 09/03/2009 1:38:35 PM PDT by nina0113
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To: TheFourthMagi
If they procure an abortion - they are excommunicated right then and there.

Latae sententia excommunications happen without an announcement in the papers.

17 posted on 09/03/2009 1:39:38 PM PDT by agere_contra
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To: agere_contra

No one enforces that.

The priests aren’t refusing anything to the abortion advocates.


18 posted on 09/03/2009 1:41:08 PM PDT by TheFourthMagi
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To: TheFourthMagi

You’re right, they face NO earthly consequences for their promotion of abortion.

And as such, there is no negative incentive or example for others in the church about what is right and wrong on this issue.


19 posted on 09/03/2009 1:45:26 PM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, save Bowman for later)
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To: Ben Mugged

Something different about the Catholic church in America?

More greedy perhaps?


20 posted on 09/03/2009 1:48:30 PM PDT by Bitsy
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