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Is Sarah Palin crazy?
American Thinker ^ | 9-6-09 | Howard Lurie

Posted on 09/06/2009 6:27:00 PM PDT by smoothsailing

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To: Recovering Ex-hippie; new cruelty
Spot is defintely a conservative ...


121 posted on 09/07/2009 10:44:43 AM PDT by WVKayaker (Sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. -Arthur C Clarke)
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To: Terpfen

>>Read my posts again, this time for content.

I did — you complete missed the point of the article. Your indignation is misplaced.


122 posted on 09/07/2009 11:14:48 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (Communism comes to America: 1/20/2009. Keep your powder dry, folks. Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: freedumb2003

The point of the article is that Palin is wrong but there could eventually be death panels anyway. The author is misinformed on this topic.


123 posted on 09/07/2009 11:24:41 AM PDT by Terpfen (FR is being Alinskied. Remember, you only take flak when you're over the target.)
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To: Terpfen

The article notes:

“And yes, it does call for explanations of orders regarding life sustaining treatments, and why such orders might be beneficial to the individual and the individual’s family, but there is no language in the bill mandating the individual’s death.”

That is all true and is what the bill says. Palin’s point has been that it is clear this counseling, combined with specific decisions to withhold life-sustaining health care to the elderly, constitutes death panels, which is what she meant.

The author agrees with Palin.


124 posted on 09/07/2009 11:34:33 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (Communism comes to America: 1/20/2009. Keep your powder dry, folks. Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: freedumb2003
The article also notes:

Sure, there is a provision in the bill for end-of-life counseling by doctors, but it does not establish "death panels."

Of course, as we have learned, the absence of specific language in the Constitution or a statute doesn't mean that something isn't there.


The article is stating that Palin's supporting reasoning for believing there are death panels in the bill is incorrect, flat-out stating "it does not establish death panels." Unfortunately, it does, as does the Porkulus. So, the author is wrong.
125 posted on 09/07/2009 11:37:37 AM PDT by Terpfen (FR is being Alinskied. Remember, you only take flak when you're over the target.)
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To: Terpfen

No, it doesn’t. Show me the words “death panel” anywhere in any proposed bill.

It is an accurate conclusion, perhaps, but it is still a conclusion.


126 posted on 09/07/2009 11:39:16 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (Communism comes to America: 1/20/2009. Keep your powder dry, folks. Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: freedumb2003

The bill also states that a tax levied in one of its sections is not a tax. So according to your “logic,” it’s not a tax, even though it it is a tax.

The phrase “death panel” does not need to appear in order for any panel or group created for the purposes of deciding 1) health benefits given to each person, and 2) whether or not to treat a person for a given disease actually is a death panel.

Let me just get this straight: according to you, if the bill doesn’t call something a death panel then it’s not a death panel, but the author of this piece can write that Palin is wrong but in your mind it means that the author is agreeing with Palin.

Yeah, I’m done with you.


127 posted on 09/07/2009 11:45:00 AM PDT by Terpfen (FR is being Alinskied. Remember, you only take flak when you're over the target.)
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>>Let me just get this straight: according to you, if the bill doesn’t call something a death panel then it’s not a death panel, but the author of this piece can write that Palin is wrong but in your mind it means that the author is agreeing with Palin.<<

You still refuse to read the article. He says she is right. Hey, its a free country. Don’t read it if you don’t want to and post ignorant comments until the cows come home.

>>Yeah, I’m done with you

As I am I with you. I prefer to talk to people who actually read and comprehend.


128 posted on 09/07/2009 12:15:13 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Communism comes to America: 1/20/2009. Keep your powder dry, folks. Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: WVKayaker

Is this your pupster?

he is darling! Spot has Dick Cheney’s look in that picture of Obozo and Bush and Cheney on the side with his big black Fedora!


129 posted on 09/07/2009 12:17:01 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (Pray for Israel! And Georgia ! And the Iranian people! and Honduras!)
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To: EternalVigilance

Unlike you Mrs. Palin doesn’t advocate pro-life issues because it makes her *look good* in the eyes of others. And, in one terse post at Facebook she has done more than the irrelevant AIP has done since its uneventful inception.


130 posted on 09/07/2009 12:32:17 PM PDT by jla
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To: WVKayaker

Great picture. Is that your dog?


131 posted on 09/07/2009 2:50:15 PM PDT by new cruelty (Shoot your TV. Torch your newspaper.)
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To: freedumb2003
I prefer to talk to people who actually read and comprehend

It is a wonder. The point of the article seemed pretty cut and dry to me. But it is clear that we all see things differently.

132 posted on 09/07/2009 2:54:25 PM PDT by new cruelty (Shoot your TV. Torch your newspaper.)
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To: Terpfen; freedumb2003
The phrase “death panel” does not need to appear in order for any panel or group created for the purposes of deciding 1) health benefits given to each person, and 2) whether or not to treat a person for a given disease actually is a death panel.

Well said, Terpfen. I agree with you. So does Freedumb2003, I think. And as much as you may hate to admit it, the author of this article agrees with you and Palin OR you agree with Palin and the author, which ever make you feel better.

133 posted on 09/07/2009 3:01:33 PM PDT by new cruelty (Shoot your TV. Torch your newspaper.)
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To: EveningStar
She's not God either.

I've never seen ANY of Sarah's supporters suggest that she is.

134 posted on 09/07/2009 5:53:15 PM PDT by SuziQ
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