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To: Pistolshot
God is all powerful, why would he labor when he could wave his hands and create an arch?

Who knows the mind of God? But perhaps to provide a test of who is obstinate in their thinking and who is not.

My question was simply designed to see if any level of statistical improbability would be able to shake the views of those who back that school of thought.

The answer so far has been a resounding, [I refuse to answer such questions]. I assume because they perceive the question to be trap. Very insecure thinking. I'm never afraid to answer a properly constructed hypothetical. Far from muddying the waters, hypotheticals remove the passion of the immediate question and apply the basic principles of the underlying logic to a different scenario. An argument that cannot survive a good hypothetical is a poor argument, or is simply being put forward by a poor arguer.

122 posted on 09/10/2009 6:44:13 PM PDT by SampleMan (Socialism enslaves you & kills your soul.)
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To: SampleMan
Sample, you need to check your improbability again. The problem is that you have already picked the finishing point, and then demanded that it occur naturally. Take a penny, flip it 32 times. Before you do that, choose your outcome among the 4+ billion possibilities. Odds are you lose, right? This is your arch or your bolt, you've picked the outcome before you started so the odds are against you.

Now flip it 32 times again for evolution. We want an outcome, any outcome. We don't care what it is. We get an outcome. Now what are the odds that we now have that outcome? Well, it happened so it's 1:1. That outcome had just as much chance of occurring as any of the other 4 billion outcomes, and the chance we'd get an outcome is 1:1.

Trying to figure out the odds of us existing as we are is a meaningless exercise, because here we are. If we'd come out different with three eyes and a snorkel, you'd be trying to figure out the odds of us coming out that way. Or the odds of us coming out the zillions of different ways that may have been possible for life.

139 posted on 09/11/2009 6:56:46 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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