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Liberals and "Blue Dogs" will not hesitate to trample the Constitution in the service of expanding government, but organized opposition to health insurance mandates should increase their fear of voters.
1 posted on 09/28/2009 8:29:32 AM PDT by reaganaut1
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To: reaganaut1

I don’t understand the outcry against mandatory health insurance, most states have that in place for car insurance.


2 posted on 09/28/2009 8:32:36 AM PDT by DonaldC (A nation cannot stand in the absence of religious principle.)
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I think this is admirable, but absolutely has no fangs. Remember the ATF says federal laws trump TN gun and sovereignty rights. Suddenly after many years of growing government interference, folks are speaking up? Well, with nothing to back it up, it’s simply feel good blather.


3 posted on 09/28/2009 8:32:38 AM PDT by momincombatboots (The last experience of the sinner is the horrible enslavement of the freedom he desired. -C.S. Lewis)
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I hope Texas can pass one but they probably won’t. They only hold session every other year.


4 posted on 09/28/2009 8:33:03 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: reaganaut1

You mean laboratories of democracy AREN’T the stomping grounds for socialists? Sheesh, who’da thunkit?

Thanks for posting. Interesting.


6 posted on 09/28/2009 8:33:54 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: reaganaut1

Do they list the states some where in the article?


11 posted on 09/28/2009 8:45:40 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: reaganaut1

Timothy Stolzfus Jost is just wrong. He said:

“States can no more nullify a federal law like this than they could nullify the civil rights laws by adopting constitutional amendments,” said Timothy Stoltzfus Jost, a health law expert at Washington & Lee University School of Law.

Civil Rights legislation was found valid based upon the equal protection clause in the 14th Amendment.

“No state shall ... deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.”

What a legal minded midget.


32 posted on 09/28/2009 10:07:00 AM PDT by vg0va3 (I don't plan to quit the fight until it is finally over.)
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To: reaganaut1

The question is what power will the federal government use to achieve it’s goal...commerce clause or taxation power?

According to United States v. South-Eastern Underwriters Association (1944), the federal government can regulate INSURANCE COMPANIES under the commerce clause. Not the insured.

To deal with this ruling congress passed McCarran-Ferguson Act (1945) was passed and places states in charge of:
* regulation of insurance
* establish mandatory licensing requirements
* preserves certain state laws of insurance.

To regulate the insured, the federal government must use taxation to mandate citizens be insured. However, in the case of United States v. Butler (1936) it stipulates that Congress has power to tax and spend FOR the general welfare, but Congress has no power to regulate in order to PROVIDE for the general welfare.

That creates a sticky issue for Obama, because the centerpiece of the Obama-Baucus plan is a decree that everyone purchase heavily regulated insurance policies or else pay a penalty (think tax to regulate).

U.S. v. Butler is why Obama refused to call it a tax. That soundbite alone could derail Obama-Baucus plan.

Fun to watch the sausage being made...just don’t want to live it.


35 posted on 09/28/2009 10:35:55 AM PDT by vg0va3 (I don't plan to quit the fight until it is finally over.)
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Can’t a STATE make Tort Reform Laws? Just asking.


36 posted on 09/28/2009 10:48:15 AM PDT by HighlyOpinionated (2012 -- Sarah Palin for President, Michele Bachmann for VP, Liz Cheney for Sec of State!)
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One wonders if they could do something else that would have an effect and still pass Constitutional muster. Say a 50% gross receipts tax on any Federal monies paid to health care providers.


41 posted on 09/28/2009 11:38:35 AM PDT by atomic_dog
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To: reaganaut1; 11th Commandment; 17th Miss Regt; 2001convSVT; 2banana; 2ndDivisionVet; ...

Just a shout out to the group. Before I reached the end of this article “blood was shooting out of my eyes”! A nod to Glenn Beck for that perfect descriptor. These “journalists” just can not seem to help themselves. Other’s thoughts?


42 posted on 09/28/2009 11:43:35 AM PDT by ForGod'sSake (You have two choices and two choices only: SUBMIT or RESIST with everything you've got!)
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44 posted on 09/28/2009 11:48:29 AM PDT by socialismisinsidious ( The socialist income tax system turns US citizens into beggars or quitters!)
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Blue Dogs are only slightly less liberal for the most part since Pelosi took over as speaker and started cracking her whip in 2008. Even the more conservative Blue Dogs went left after she took over.

You are so right in your assessment of Dems.


55 posted on 09/28/2009 1:43:26 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (Mary Fallin - OK Gov/Coburn - Senate 2010 ! Take Back the House/Senate! Stop ZERO!)
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This could be the beginning of a resurgence in state power. The federal government needs to be dismantled. It started as a protector of liberty and has become an oppressive dictatorial force that is crushing freedom and advancing socialism. The states can destroy the federal government and replace it with a subservient system. Like the Swiss.


62 posted on 09/29/2009 12:05:35 AM PDT by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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