Posted on 09/28/2009 10:31:10 AM PDT by Free ThinkerNY
Iran fired two of the longest-range missiles in its arsenal today ahead of a confrontation with foreign powers over a previously undisclosed secret nuclear facility later this week.
The Revolutionary Guard is reported to have successfully launched a Shahab-3 and a Sejil missile, both of which are capable of carrying nuclear warheads with a range of up to 1,200 miles – which would put Israel, most Arab states and parts of Europe, including much of Turkey, within its range.
Iranian television broadcast footage of the Shahab-3 being fired from desert terrain.
Iran’s war games began yesterday after the revelations about the enrichment plant, at a military base near the holy city of Qom. It dramatically upped the stakes for the meeting in Geneva on Thursday between Iranian representatives and those of the five permanent members of the United Nations Security Council plus Germany.
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The problems spawned by Carter in 1979 will come back to haunt us. Problems must be faced and not permitted to fester like like this. Time will force us to take out Iran and the Mullahs. Lets hope that America will have the will or power to do it. Maybe we should just let Putin have Iran.
Lets not let our panties get in a twist - Israel can obliterate any country that shoots an ICBM at it.
We lived with Russia for decades and their thousands of missiles pointing at us - and they still do.
If you don't see the huge and fundamental difference between the problem of a nuclear Russia and that of a nuclear Iran, then heaven help you. ...and I'm sure glad you're not in the government.
No, since I used to be a targeting and launch officer for nuclear missiles.
As a launch platoon officer I regularly mated and unmated the HE and nuke versions (training) to the Lance missile.
However, it still isn’t a nuclear missile unless you put a nuke warhead on the thing.
No, he’s got a point. For Iran to nuke Israel would be suicide on a national scale. Yes, it’s really messed up that our current President allowed things to escalate this far, but it’s not time to send in our ground forces.
How so? The proxies in Palestine attack Israel with impunity. Iran proxies kill Americans and others in Afghanistan every day. Why on earth would you think the whole country would be destroyed if they nuked Israel?
In today's world, there are practically no negative consequences for attacking Israel.
Iran will develop the technology and make sure one of its proxies do the dirty work.
The Russians were secular Humanists who denied the existence of God, the Islamo think they will be rewarded by their "god" for killing the infidel. Their current "President" is a wack job who thinks the "hidden imam" will soon return to lead the global jihad.
What rock do you people hide under to avoid having to ever confront any factual reality that does not conform to your neo-Isolationist political dogma?
It is a thankless job giving out facts to wishful thinkers.
Your points are spot on.
Luckily, Joe Biden said Iran is not a threat!
/sarc
Any sh*thole Muhammed parked his camel counts, apparantly.
Israel is not going to attack in sufficient force to end any of this. Iran is going to get nuclear weapons, and the world is going to sit around and watch.
The US has an ascendency over Iran in every military sense that makes direct action against them easy and assured of success. But no one in the US is calling for such an action. We are deterred. Israel is five times as deterred. They aren't going to move a muscle.
"But that can't happen, because it would be bad". Please review the history of the 20th century and revise your assumptions about the impossibility of stupid courses of action resulting in military and humanitarian calamity.
"But we'll just retaliate against them anyway". Really? Are you prepared to retaliate right now against the Russians for helping Iran get its nukes? Didn't think so.
The entire strategy has been explained in great detail in Ahmadinejad's speeches, and indeed in some going clear back to Khomenei, as early as 1983. They aren't in any hurry. But they will become a nuclear power, they will use it to blackmail other states in the region and deter the west out of it, and they will proliferate recklessly to terrorists afterward.
50 years of nuclear armed terrorism are what they expect will be required to overthrown the western liberal world order. They've said so. They are doing it. And complacent idiots in the west are sitting on their backsides resassuring themselves that they would get blown up tomorrow, if they just sit still and wait.
And yes, the fractured political history of Islam has meant numerous disparate sites important to this or that sect.
The former Soviet Union had thousand of primitive Scud type rockets mated with quick and dirty nuclear warheads with technology from the 60s. It was done before and is still very much possible.
“If you don’t see the huge and fundamental difference between the problem of a nuclear Russia and that of a nuclear Iran, then heaven help you”
Please enlighten us - we lost 100,000 men in Korea and Viet Nam fighting the Russians and their puppets while they had thousands of nukes pointed at us.
Explain how a missile or two in Iran should make us hysterical.
” neo-Isolationist political dogma? “
BWAHAHAHAHAHHHAHA - we have hundreds of thousands of troops stationed in scores of countries.
We now have unheralded problems at home - Detroit has been destroyed more than Bagdad. I supported the war in Iraq - we won it and now many dont want to admit that.
“That is exactly the mindless idiotic complacency...”
What part of “The Russians have had thousands of nukes aimed at us for 60 years” do you not understand.
There are lots of countries with lots of nukes that hate lots of other countries. They dont dare start anything because they know they will be anhialated.
Which part of reckless deniable proliferation don't you understand?
Who are you going to retaliate against if a smuggled nuke goes off in Tel Aviv tomorrow? Hamas, who delivered it? Iran, who paid for it? North Korea, who supplied the weapon? China, who protected North Korea? Russia, helping them all, and ready with a thousand weapons to scare you off?
Pick your poison, at some point up that chain you stop. Everyone higher up that chain knows you will. They therefore know they can nuke your sorry backside and you'll like it.
Who wrote this headline? Test fires nuclear missle? Was that missle with a nuke warhead or have they figured out how to make a nuclear engine for a missle? Which is it I wonder? OR, could this simply be a long range missle with no warhead or a dummy warhead that was test fired? The UK reporters are just about as stupid as our American ones.
The burning question I have is are they getting technology from the Bozo administration? Clinton sold technology to the Chinese for election donations, Bozo is far worse than Clinton so why wouldn't he sell the Iranians nuke secrets?
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