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To: tuckrdout
Listen cowboy, the constitition does not guarantee the right for any of us to use mind altering drugs.

Beg to differ. Any powers not specifically enumerated to the Federal Government in the Constitution are reserved to the individual states. Nowhere, and I mean NOWHERE, in that document (the US Constitution), does it mention prohibitions on the hemp plant specifically or intoxicants in general. Off the top of my head, I can name at least one of the Signators on that document who actually grew it.

The 4th Amendment has already been effectively written out of the Constitution by the drug/alcohol warriors. The WOD is a clear-and-present danger to our way of life. It is being used to open unending constitutional breaches. Those breaches have been and will continue to be used in ways other than their original purpose. Ever hear of the Law of Unintended Consequences?

For the record - I don't use recreational drugs. I drink alcohol maybe once a year. Ad hom attacks based on psychological projection won't win anyone to your cause.

How far do you (extremely hypocritical in your personal case) prohibitionists want to take this? How ridiculous has it gotten, already? Corrections is already the number one industry in my state, Colorado. That's right, more money is spent on putting people away in Colorado than on Agriculture or Tourism. Incredible amount resources being thrown down the drain to fulfill the pipe-dreams of statist control freaks.

You're advocating that this should continue, status quo, or that we should be spending even MORE on this farce? We already have more people per capita locked up than the Soviets did under Stalin. Wake up. The gulags have failed. What's left? Death camps?


406 posted on 10/05/2009 10:31:14 AM PDT by CowboyJay (RiNO - It's 'what's for dinner'...)
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To: CowboyJay
The 4th Amendment has already been effectively written out of the Constitution by the drug/alcohol warriors. The WOD is a clear-and-present danger to our way of life. It is being used to open unending constitutional breaches. Those breaches have been and will continue to be used in ways other than their original purpose.

Drug warriors are the biggest threat to the US Constitution in this country. They have also done extreme damage with Federal asset forfeiture laws which have corrupted our law enforcement to the greatest extent since prohibition. They have also resulted in the rise of SWAT and paramilitary police.

Despots all over the world can see the drug war as a means to acheive a military police state, just as they have in America. The drug warriors will be coming for our guns next.
407 posted on 10/05/2009 12:14:02 PM PDT by microgood
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To: CowboyJay; All
I try to stay away from this topic because it's one that tends to divide conservatives. It's considered a "liberal" belief to legalize pot, but on the other hand, it's also libertarian.

You have the old school conservatives dead against it. You have the younger conservatives who tend to be for it. Let's face it - all those studies that demonize and exaggerate the harmful effects of pot are just as biased as the leftwing's studies on global warming. NO I AM NOT SAYING POT IS HARMLESS - I am saying that it is not as harmful as many of these studies come out to say.

I will quote Rush Limbaugh on medical marijuana "The stuff is like GOLD for people who want to use it as pain relief. Let them have it!" (and he said this a couple of years before the whole oxy-contin thing. That's why when liberals call him a hypocrite, I always bring that up. He is not a hypocrite. He has always come out in favor of drugs that are used to kill pain)

Rich Lowry of National Review and frequent right wing commentator on FOX has written several articles promoting the legalization of pot not for just medical uses, but for recreational uses as well.

http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=N2E1MTE0ZTc0MGY4MmI5YTg2ZGViNTE1MmJkZTgxN2Y=#

As a conservative, I consider all Americans to be personally responsible until or unless they prove otherwise. I don't smoke pot, but as long as people can use it responsibly, I see no problem with it.

Don't drive on pot. Don't give it to your kids or other people's kids. Don't operate heavy machinery or engage in anything that may harm others. Period. Toke up all you want! Less government means just that. Who is to tell you that you can't smoke something that grows out of the ground? So as long as those basic rules are followed.

Legalize pot and let otherwise law obiding citizens out of jail and back home to their families. Legalize pot so that we can divert more resources to fighting the REAL drugs that matter - like cocaine and heroin. While we're busy chasing down a plant that when smoked makes one a little dopey and hungry, the real poison is making its way in that's REALLY killing people.

Please show me how many people have overdosed on pot as compared to heroin.

410 posted on 10/05/2009 9:01:57 PM PDT by BillyKess (The Patriot Edition: http://patriotedition.com/)
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