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To: 70times7

I am a native Philadelphian and a former Philadelphia police officer. Now I am a journalist/writer.

While I’ve not read this study, I’d be willing to bet it is fallacious. It is a defective syllogism - sort of like the old “ All Riffian tribesmen have blue eyes, Ahmed has blue eyes, therefore Ahmed is a Riffian tribesmen” syllogism.

The defective conclusion is that people who carry guns are shot more than those who don’t, therefore it isn’t safe to carry a gun.

It omits that people who carry guns may be shot more than those who don’t because many people who carry guns are trying to shoot others who also may have a gun. It doesn’t state the cause of the shooting.

So it’s quite possible that those who have been shot while carrying a gun were shot while committing an illegal act by others who were also committing an illegal act or by those who were protecting themselves from an illegal act.

Now I’m not sure whether this headline was a result of the study or the journalist/editor. I’d have to read the study to learn who is grinding the axe.

Quite frankly, I don’t want to waste my time.


68 posted on 10/07/2009 5:14:15 PM PDT by William Tell 2
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To: William Tell 2
Well said. My post surrounded a frustration I have - no small number of freepers dismiss issues w/out actually thinking the matter through. In doing so they make it easy for trolls to view conservatives as ignorant and shallow. I agree that the article is very likely garbage, but the flaw is not so simplistic as gang members and legal CCs being calced the same way.

My experience w/ Philly is from various articles and routine visits. I am interrested in your view of what I wrote. If I'm off I don't mind being told, learning what is true is more important to me. Thanks for your service, BTW. Philly is rough. How long and what years were you an officer there?

73 posted on 10/07/2009 5:58:22 PM PDT by 70times7 (Serving Free Republics' warped and obscure humor needs since 1999!)
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To: William Tell 2

Maybe we could hire a large research staff, do some computer modeling and come up some statistics? /s


80 posted on 10/07/2009 6:55:07 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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