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To: NYer
There is no such thing as a hate crime. A crime is crime, killing someone is murder, and there is still equal protection under the law.

You cannot decern what someone is thinking when he commits the crime, just because the victim might be a queer. Most violent crime is hate.

How do you argue for different penalties when you apply the test that this person was killed, and this person was killed because he was queer. It is absurd on it's face. It is what Hitler did to the Jews and the Polish people. It is what liberals want to do to people who believe in God. 'Hate Crimes' is just another one of those wacky liberal manisfestations, word play to mine emotions, like Africa-America -- Used to divide America into groups, so they can be pitted against one another for political advantage.

Ever heard of an African-Canadian? Are black people now supposed to be only half American? And what if the blacks came from places other than African? It's a joke, on us. The intellectual backruptcy of it all should be made clear to everyone.

Words mean thing, and liberals use words to change people's minds. Queers are queers and black people are Americans.

11 posted on 10/10/2009 7:00:00 AM PDT by Tarpon (Oba-Mao is a reader, not a leader ...)
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To: Tarpon
A crime is crime, killing someone is murder, and there is still equal protection under the law.

While that is indeed true, the provision making it a *federal* crime to kill or attempt to kill a person because of their *federal* status has some merit, although whether it's needed or not is another issue.

22 posted on 10/10/2009 9:54:56 AM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: Tarpon

Don’t answer a fool according to his folly (accepting his premise),

attack his premise.

There is no other goal of this legislation than to outlaw Christian beliefs and to use the power of the State to punish those who espouse them.


31 posted on 10/11/2009 4:57:30 AM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, save Bowman for later)
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