Posted on 10/10/2009 5:00:52 PM PDT by Graybeard58
There is some truth to that. I wonder how many nonunion manufacturers are having these problems. Nucor and Toyota US seem to be doing just fine.
The FairTax is not a tax cut, it just moves it around a bit. The pre-bate is the most ridiculously stupid thing ever.
Its still progressive, it still handouts your taxes to the poor... its stupid
Katsuaki Watanabe, Toyota president, apologized to investors.
Go to your Portfolio » The automaker said it lost 765.8 billion yen, or $7.7 billion, in the first three months of the year — even more than the $5.9 billion lost by its American rival, General Motors, in the same period.
Reallyhttp://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/09/business/global/09toyota.html
They’re not relocating plants out of the US was my point. Everybody is hurting compared to a few years ago, with few exceptions.
I had a thought, just a thought.
What if the long term goal is to outsource Americans globally or in this case to Mexico for a job just as jobs have been to other countries.
If that were the only reason, they could have opened a new plant in a right-to-work state.
But they didn’t. They went outside our borders.
Score another “victory” for “free trade.”
Have a friend that does injection molding for them. That is he’s the manager of that process.
Spit....
Let the Mexicans buy Whirlpools sh*t.
Force the CEO to live in Mexico City.
Thank the Rats!
Time for “Buy American” tarriffs. Perhaps even laws against outsourcing American jobs.
Our nation is being SOLD.
For chump change. By treasonous people who don’t care one bit about America.
Whirlpool is closing their plant in Evansville, IN. My current home.
I had to buy a washer this week.
Whirlpool was not on the list even though they were on sale.
Burn in hell Whirlpool.
GE was not on the list either. GE is bribing congress to pass laws to benefit GE. Rot in hell GE.
Plenty of non-union shops are having problems. You just don’t hear about them as loudly in the news, especially the smaller manufacturing companies that cost the economy 5 to 500 jobs when they go down for the count.
Toyota, BTW, is suffering greatly. They’ve having to lay off people in Japan. Exports from Japan to the US are way down in the last year+.
I heard that they can’t find qualified people for the jobs of today, examples...nurses, doctors, high tech. The jobs of yesterday have all but disappeared.
And now no one wants they would rather take the easy way out and let the guv. pay them rather then take the time to learn the tech, etc. jobs. My guess is they would rather play their X-boxes, text.
God help us.
There is one important thing to remember here..... it still costs money to ship the products to the USA. No matter how little or how much they pay their workers, they still have to overcome shipping. Ok, so what?
So, why else does it cost so much? Maybe real-estate taxes, payroll taxes (remember your employer has to match what you pay 7.5% FICA from you and 7.5% from the Employer). Environmental impact studies... Not to mention taxes at almost every step of production. You need to order parts? The company is going to pay taxes on those parts. They pay for the trucks, boats, trains, and planes to ship those parts/products.... and lets not forget about the fuel taxes and all of the fees involved.
Now you say, "but companies don't pay taxes, consumers do." Well yes this true, but how much do you expect to pay for the items you buy?
And then you have labor costs.... minimum and "living wages" for menial tasks and jobs (ever see "adults" making minimum wage that had work ethic worth more than $1.00 an hour?; definitely not the majority). And then we have the unions $20+ an hour, full medical/dental, 3 weeks paid vacation, "personal" days, sick leave, seniority, quotas, oh yeah.... and lets not forget when you no longer work there and retire you get to bring some of these benefits with you. And good luck trying to fire some of these guys after their probationary period.
Do I like the fact CEOs get paid so much? No, I don't. But these guys oversee multi-(b)million dollar companies and are responsible for making the company a profit. There is a reason line workers are line workers and upper-management is upper management. Not only that, but the stock holders are basically buying a piece of the company. That money is invested into the company. This is not a charity. I don't "give" money to the company out of the goodness of my heart. I do it because I expect a return on my investment.
It is a terrible thing when an American loses their job. It disgusts me to see jobs exported over-seas. But the people, the workers, get the government they voted for. They get the taxes drafted by the people they elected. And businesses have to make decisions in order to stay profitable.
I wonder what was a more cost-effective decision.... Moving the factory to Mexico, or moving it to a right to work state; and having to do environmental impact studies, and apply for building permits etc etc etc.
Perhaps even laws against outsourcing American jobs.
More laws is exactly what we need. All these BS laws and taxes and fees are the major reasons we are in this mess.
By the way.... which way did Indiana go in '08? And who did the CWA (AFL-CIO) support in the election?
Hope and Change doesn't fill your belly.... even if you have seconds; and last I checked it still doesn't pay the light bill.
And 1,110 fewer people who will be buying all those other "cheap" goods from factories that have been outsourced. These corporations are laying off each others' customers. Who is going to buy their crap when everybody, or even a large percentage of Americans are on the dole or at subsistence wages?
You bet, and only a tribal princess living in fantasyland can't see this.
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