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Death of General Robert E. Lee
Canada Free Press ^ | October 11, 2009 | Calvin E. Johnson, Jr.

Posted on 10/11/2009 3:38:41 PM PDT by BigReb555

"Robert E. Lee was, in my estimation, one of the supremely gifted men produced by this nation." unquote--Dwight D. Eisenhower

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: confederate; dixie; lee; lexington; union; virginia
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To: jla
Gee, thanx, jla, < I am not worthy >. We've got some pretty illustrious ancestors to live up to (Lee is not among them < sniff > but we have some Byrds and a gaggle of CSA and AmRev veterans).

My daughter is shy and gentle, but she is also GOOD. (She takes after her daddy.)

51 posted on 10/12/2009 6:46:28 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: Non-Sequitur
OK I will Play: Lee inherited slaves but freed them ,Grant kept his until forced to free them in 1866. When the War moved North Lee's Army was under strict Orders to respect Private property and NOT to make War on Civilians,This compared starkly to his Opposites/Enemies in the North who made War on Civilians a matter of Policy..

I cited one example Sherman but did not mention Grants armed former Slaves in Blue uniforms.

52 posted on 10/12/2009 7:48:22 AM PDT by Cheetahcat (Zero the Wright kind of Racist! We are in a state of War with Democrats)
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To: Cheetahcat
OK I will Play: Lee inherited slaves but freed them ,Grant kept his until forced to free them in 1866.

OK, then play honestly. Lee freed the slaves from his father-in-laws estate in December 1862, a few months after the date stipulated in the will. Grant personally owned a single slave who he manumitted in 1859 before moving to Illinois. His wife had use of several slaves owned by his father-in-law, and according to Grant's own letters they were freed in early 1863. Grant could not have freed his slaves in 1866 since he didn't live anywhere where slavery was legal - slavery was outlawed by Missouri in January 1865 and in the country as a whole in December 1865.

When the War moved North Lee's Army was under strict Orders to respect Private property and NOT to make War on Civilians...

And order widely disregarded by then men and which didn't apply to the commanders. Lee's army was on a foraging mission in the North. His goal was to gather enough food and supplies from Union territories to help equip his army for the coming months and this was accomplished by taking everything of use to the army that wasn't nailed down. Kent Masterton Brown in his book "Retreat From Gettysburg: Lee, Logistics and the Pennsylvania Campaign" details the extent Lee and his subordinates went to in order to gather supplies, including levying requirements on various Northern towns with a threat to burn them if demands were not met. Letters from confederate soldiers also describe instances of looting and burning and abducting free blacks and taking them South.

If the North suffered less than the South from the armies passing through it's only because confederate armies seldom had the chance to campaign in the North.

I cited one example Sherman but did not mention Grants armed former Slaves in Blue uniforms.

And now that you have, how about citing it accurately?

53 posted on 10/12/2009 8:54:08 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur
“I cited one example Sherman but did not mention Grants armed former Slaves in Blue uniforms.”

How about the fact they were guards at Prisons where southern solders were held? Union Army was 2.5 Million and 10% were Blacks BTW the Cold blooded Murders,Rapes and other War crimes was a nice touch. How about the burning of Atlanta?

54 posted on 10/12/2009 9:28:37 AM PDT by Cheetahcat (Zero the Wright kind of Racist! We are in a state of War with Democrats)
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To: Cheetahcat
How about the fact they were guards at Prisons where southern solders were held?

So what?

Union Army was 2.5 Million and 10% were Blacks BTW

Again, so what?

BTW the Cold blooded Murders,Rapes and other War crimes was a nice touch.

And for the most part imaginary.

How about the burning of Atlanta?

How about the burning of Chambersburg? And Lawrence?

55 posted on 10/12/2009 9:30:59 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur
You provide Nothing No Parallels to Sherman how about Custer Nothing? Face it Grants war was on civilians there can be no Soul enrichment in that to a real Man. Now run along and dig up something that resembles a 60 mile wide swath of destruction on private Property done with Lee's blessing!! I await this.
56 posted on 10/12/2009 9:47:16 AM PDT by Cheetahcat (Zero the Wright kind of Racist! We are in a state of War with Democrats)
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To: BigReb555

Just finished reading (admittedly, scanning about 1/2) U.S. Grant’s
Personal Memoirs. It was a Christmas gift from my brother and
sister-in-law maybe five years ago.

Heck of a read.
Especially Grant’s recounting of the Appomatix (sp?) Court House
meeting with Lee. Grant admits he got caught up in reminiscing over
“the good old days” until Lee and his assistant reminded him of the
real purpose of their meeting.
Both generals seemed to have been very gracious, as Lee would reply
to Grant that this should have a good effect on the surrendering
Confederates when Grant allowed some leeway in terms (e.g., artillerists
could each take away a horse, with the tilling of fields in mind)

The Civil War was a sad event. But somehow conflict that the USA
engages in (even with itself) often produces some real giants
(even if they have “feet of clay” like any mortals).


57 posted on 10/12/2009 9:54:41 AM PDT by VOA
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To: BigReb555

He died?

I need to send a card then


58 posted on 10/12/2009 9:56:42 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: Cheetahcat
You provide Nothing No Parallels to Sherman how about Custer Nothing? Face it Grants war was on civilians there can be no Soul enrichment in that to a real Man. Now run along and dig up something that resembles a 60 mile wide swath of destruction on private Property done with Lee's blessing!! I await this.

Punctuation is your friend.

59 posted on 10/12/2009 12:28:40 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur

Punctuation is your friend.

So we are reduced to this? No thanks!


60 posted on 10/12/2009 12:38:00 PM PDT by Cheetahcat (Zero the Wright kind of Racist! We are in a state of War with Democrats)
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To: Cheetahcat
So we are reduced to this? No thanks!

Better. No go back and redo your earlier posts into something coherent and maybe I'll respond.

61 posted on 10/12/2009 12:44:15 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur

“Better. No go back and redo your earlier posts into something coherent and maybe I’ll respond.”

Really ?? Try reading then!


62 posted on 10/12/2009 12:47:30 PM PDT by Cheetahcat (Zero the Wright kind of Racist! We are in a state of War with Democrats)
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To: BigReb555

When I visted the house where the surrender was signed, at Appomatax Courthouse, the ranger described how Lee came down the road alone on horse back and the union troops lined the road and cheered and saluted him. That was enough of a tribute for me.


63 posted on 10/12/2009 12:49:59 PM PDT by nufsed (Release the passport, school and birth records.)
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To: Cheetahcat
Really ?? Try reading then!

I tried. Run on sentences. No punctuation. If there was a point in there then it was impossible to make out. Here. Here is an example of a well composed message:

"It will be a physical impossibility to protect the roads, now that Hood, Forrest, Wheeler, and the whole batch of devils are turned loose without home or habitation. I think that Hood's movements indicate a diversion to the end of the Selma & Talledega road, at Blue Mountain, about 60 miles southwest of Rome, where he will threaten Kingston, Bridgeport, and Decatur,Alabama, I propose that we break up the railroad from Chattanooga forward, and that we strike out with our wagons for Midgeville, Millen, and Savannah. Until we can repopulate Georgia, it is useless for us to occupy it, but the utter destruction of its roads, houses, and people, will cripple their military resources. By attempting to hold the roads, we will lose a thousand men each month, and we will gain no result. I can make this march, and make Georgia howl! We have on hand over 8 thousand head of cattle and three million rations of bread, but no corn. We can find plenty of forage in the interior of the state." -- William Sherman, 1864

64 posted on 10/12/2009 12:51:14 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur
End of Conversation! This was on the Civil War not grammar. You lose for that cheap shot BTW.
65 posted on 10/12/2009 1:03:18 PM PDT by Cheetahcat (Zero the Wright kind of Racist! We are in a state of War with Democrats)
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To: RJS1950

Ewell could have taken Culp’s Hill the first day, had he told Early to just do it instead of waiting for Gen Johnson.

Longstreet wanted Lee to move around to the right of the Union army and make them attach the Army of the Northern Virginia. Unfortuately for that plan, the best place for that plan was at Union Mills, Md. General Meade had already selected Union Mills for the battle. Meade was ready at Union Mills, neither Meade or Lee were ready at Gettysburg.

Meade had an advantage in that Reynolds was the first senior general Meade sent to Gettysburg. After Reynolds was killed, the AOP had many problem. When Hancock arrived, things turned for the AOP.


66 posted on 10/12/2009 6:39:50 PM PDT by quikdrw (Life is tough....it's even tougher if you are stupid.)
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