Judge Land Fines Orly Taitz $20K, File Copy of Order with State Bar of CA

United States District Court (Georgia) ^ | 10/13/2009 | Judge Clay Land

[Teacher317]

That is not what 902(3) says.

[Teacher317]

Rule 902. Self-authentication

Extrinsic evidence of authenticity as a condition precedent to admissibility is not required with respect to the following:

(1) Domestic public documents under seal...
(2) Domestic public documents not under seal...
(3) Foreign public documents.
- A document purporting to be executed or attested in an official capacity by a person authorized by the laws of a foreign country to make the execution or attestation, and accompanied by a final certification as to the genuineness of the signature and official position (A) of the executing or attesting person, or (B) of any foreign official whose certificate of genuineness of signature and official position relates to the execution or attestation or is in a chain of certificates of genuineness of signature and official position relating to the execution or attestation. A final certification may be made by a secretary of an embassy or legation, consul general, consul, vice consul, or consular agent of the United States, or a diplomatic or consular official of the foreign country assigned or accredited to the United States. If reasonable opportunity has been given to all parties to investigate the authenticity and accuracy of official documents, the court may, for good cause shown, order that they be treated as presumptively authentic without final certification or permit them to be evidenced by an attested summary with or without final certification.

(My emphasis added)

Nothing in that Rule keeps the Kenyan certificate out, and gives several opportunities for it to come in as proper evidence.

[Lurking Libertarian]

I provided a link to 902(3). What in that Rule says that her alleged certificate is admissible?

[Lurking Libertarian]

If reasonable opportunity has been given to all parties to investigate the authenticity and accuracy of official documents, the court may, for good cause shown, order that they be treated as presumptively authentic without final certification or permit them to be evidenced by an attested summary with or without final certification.

(1) Orly has not given anyone the opportunity to investigate her document; (2) "good cause" has not been shown, because her affidavit is from a convicted forger, who admits obtaining the document under illegal circumstances; and (3) Orly never even attempted to invoke the last sentence of Rule 902 (3) in any of her court filings, so that issue was waived.

[jamese777]

The state of Hawaii has verified the Obama birth information that is required to be president under the constitution
They have stated that the documents they have on file say he was born in Hawaii. They have not verified his residence or age. Nor have they verified his father’s citizenship at the time of his birth.

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Dr. Fukino’s exact words were “...is a natural born American citizen.”
The only things that the Constitution requires are born in the US and over 35 years old. Address of a residence is not required. The information on Obama’s short form COLB meets the constitutional requirements: born in 1961, born in Honolulu. No other information is required.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2009-07-27-obama-hawaii_N.htm
Obama’s father’s citizenship has no constitutional bearing since his mother was born in Wichita, Kansas.