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Interview: Man Who Went Undercover As Muslim Intern Speaks To TPM
TPMMuckraker ^ | October 16, 2009 | Justin Elliott

Posted on 10/18/2009 6:14:10 AM PDT by kellynla

Your mission, should you choose to accept it: Change your name. Grow a beard and learn the ways of Islam. Present yourself at the Council on American Islamic Relations. Acquire an internship. Wear a wire. Take whatever isn't bolted down.

That's the mission Chris Gaubatz accepted last year. And Gaubatz, who sells insurance for a living, told TPMmuckraker in an email interview that he never once felt guilty during the six months as a Muslim intern spy and that, well, some of the CAIR folks were pretty darn nice, despite any terrorist sympathies.

His father co-authored the new book Muslim Mafia based on the allegedly incriminating documents Chris took. Citing the documents, four House Republicans have charged that CAIR dispatched Muslim intern spies to key national security committees, calling for authorities to investigate.

"They were nice people and I got along with them very well which is why I was able to retrieve the information I did," Gaubatz says. "But just because somebody is outwardly friendly doesn't mean they can't be doing something wrong or even harming National Security."

Gaubatz, whose father coordinated the project, says he's unbowed by CAIR's charge that he stole documents.

And asked about his father's statement that Barack Obama is Muslim, Gaubatz responded, "Obama's religious affiliation has nothing to do with my reasoning for gathering information on the organization."

Here's the full interview (edited for clarity):

Q: How did you decide to go undercover for CAIR?

A: I was approached by my father for the project who was a special agent for the Air Force for 15 years with top secret clearance. My dad asked for my help because, as with any investigative project,he needed someone to go inside the organization that he trusted to follow directions.

Q: Did you ever come close to having your cover blown?

A: Only once did I almost have my cover blown, which is documented in the introduction of Muslim Mafia. For the entire six months, I wore a button camera on my shirt, but at the beginning of my internship the button-cam popped off. I was sitting in the middle of about 30-40 other CAIR employees at a conference on how to deal strategically with the media. One of the other researchers happened to be with me and noticed the camera was gone. I acted like I was coughing, and slipped out to replace the camera.

Q: Did you ever feel guilty?

A: Not at all.

Q: Did you find any nice people at CAIR?

A: They were nice people and I got along with them very well which is why I was able to retrieve the information I did, but just because somebody is outwardly friendly doesn't mean they can't be doing something wrong or even harming National Security.

Q: How do you respond to the charges by CAIR that you stole documents?

A: The entire project was coordinated by my father, who has more than 20 years of investigative experience and who further coordinated with attorneys, law enforcement and members of the government throughout the process to make sure we were following legal guidelines. I was preserving evidence that CAIR asked me to destroy. To go along with their destruction would have been against both state and federal law. Also, CAIR's leaders gave me full authority to handle those documents they were throwing away. Having worked inside CAIR--as un unpaid intern, by the way--I know firsthand that their statements are intimidation tactics, and since we have the truth on our side, its easy for me to call their bluff and not worry about their allegations.

Q: Do you agree with your father's charge that Obama is a Muslim?

A: Obama's religious affiliation has nothing to do with my reasoning for gathering information on the organization.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Government
KEYWORDS: islam; muslim; terrorism; terrorists

1 posted on 10/18/2009 6:14:11 AM PDT by kellynla
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To: kellynla

bookmark.


2 posted on 10/18/2009 6:17:21 AM PDT by IrishCatholic (No local Communist or Socialist Party Chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing!)
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To: kellynla

bookmark


3 posted on 10/18/2009 6:21:18 AM PDT by ElayneJ
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To: kellynla

He is lucky to be alive.

BTW, the CAIR website is very seductive for young naive Muslims, belying the true nature and purpose of CAIR.


4 posted on 10/18/2009 6:23:27 AM PDT by FormerACLUmember (When the past no longer illuminates the future, the spirit walks in darkness.)
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To: kellynla

We should be grateful as a nation that this young man as well as the two young people who blew the whistle on ACORN are exposing these wolves in our midst and doing the job a free investigative press ought to be doing. CAIR should long ago have been the target of an FBI investigation, but out see no evil administration and leak prone members of Congress and US media would have made this impossible.


5 posted on 10/18/2009 6:24:23 AM PDT by The Great RJ ("The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money." M. Thatcher)
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To: The Great RJ

God willing, there are patriots out there that will uncover the corruption and lies within our government.


6 posted on 10/18/2009 6:45:26 AM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: kellynla

I assume Gaubatz is now packing heat.


7 posted on 10/18/2009 7:16:24 AM PDT by luvbach1 (Worse than we could have imagined.)
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To: luvbach1

And, bodyguards. Ever notice Clinton and Gore have lots of bodyguards?


8 posted on 10/18/2009 7:49:42 AM PDT by Achilles Heel
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To: kellynla
All those folks who think America is done for..

Look at what young people do without pay and in mortal danger..

Just take to Heart Saint Reagan's Strategic Battle Plan for Dealing with the Soviet Union..

“We win.. they Lose”!!!

Everyday they take a hunk,

You by lawful political and social means go get a bite..do one thing no matter how small for Liberty.

Pretty soon they will get tired of being bit.

We will never get tired of defending Liberty.

W

9 posted on 10/18/2009 9:05:30 AM PDT by WLR (Remember 911 Remember 91 Iran delinda est.)
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To: kellynla

So what did he find out ?


10 posted on 10/18/2009 5:22:41 PM PDT by lucias_clay (All We Weed Up !)
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