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1 posted on 10/20/2009 2:17:21 PM PDT by rabscuttle385
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2 posted on 10/20/2009 2:17:45 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 (http://restoretheconstitution.ning.com/)
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I would say that public education is a necessary evil, except that it isn’t necessary.


3 posted on 10/20/2009 2:18:44 PM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (The People have abdicated our duties; ... and anxiously hope for just two things: bread and circuses)
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It has become abundantly obvious that all of the totalitarian states of the modern world have used the instrument of public education...to keep their people enslaved.



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4 posted on 10/20/2009 2:20:06 PM PDT by bamahead (Avoid self-righteousness like the devil- nothing is so self-blinding. -- B.H. Liddell Hart)
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Given the dismal results of public education over the last couple of decades, the question shouldn't be is it necessary but is it worth the trillions of dollars wasted on it. If you can't read by the 8th grade, four more years aren't going to do much for you anyway.
6 posted on 10/20/2009 2:20:59 PM PDT by dblshot
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From Investor's Business Daily (IBD), August 27, 2008:

"Ayers, now a tenured distinguished professor of education at UIC, works to educate teachers in socialist revolutionary ideology, urging that it be passed on to impressionable students.

One of Ayer's descriptions for a course called 'Improving Learning Environments' says prospective K-12 teachers need to 'be aware of the social and moral universe we inhabit and ... be a teacher capable of hope and struggle, outrage and action, teaching for social justice and liberation.

The Annenberg papers are quite extensive — 132 boxes containing 947 file folders with 70 linear feet of material. They undoubtedly contain more surprises regarding Obama's relationship with Ayers, one of many relationships Obama has sought to hide.'..."

Article: Annenberg Papers: Putting On Ayers?
http://www.ibdeditorial.com/IBDArticles.aspx?id=304729375940845
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REVOLUTION: Voice of the Revolutionary Communist Party, USA [Maoist]
[Revolution] Interview with Bill Ayers, Revolution #63, October 1, 2006:
"On Progressive Education, Critical Thinking and the Cowardice of Some in Dangerous Times"
http://rwor.org/a/063/ayers-en.html
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The RCP calls for the armed overthrow of the U.S. government...

From the website of the Revolutionary Communist Party (revcom.us or rwor.org) :

"Create Public Opinion, Seize Power: We are preparing minds and organizing forces for the time when there is a major crack in the system, whenever it comes and wherever it comes from: an opening that makes it possible to bring the future Revolutionary Army of the Proletariat (R.A.P.) into the field and wage a revolutionary armed struggle that actually has a chance of winning.

And we have said that building our party itself is the most important part of organizing forces for revolution. This is true now, and it is true looking forward to the creation of that future R.A.P. and the waging of that armed struggle.":

http://revcom.us/a/v20/1000-1009/1000/barw.htm
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YouTube Video:
The O'Reilly Factor confronts Bill Ayers:
October 24, 2008:
(note the red communist star on his shirt)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dP3uvK9gTIY
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7 posted on 10/20/2009 2:22:28 PM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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Most Americans, living in a capitalist society, still cannot understand such basic economic concepts as supply and demand, or the meaning of the word profit, or how government can cause inflation with the printing press and thereby destroy the value of our currency. Even the President of the United States, a graduate of Harvard Law School, seems unable to understand some fundamental economic principles that govern a free, capitalist society.

This is tragically the truth. I know some very intelligent people that are ignorant about how our economy works and why it works.

8 posted on 10/20/2009 2:25:32 PM PDT by Tenacious 1 (Government For the People - an obviously concealed oxymoron)
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“It has failed the children, but in reality it has not failed the progressives.”

Yes indeed. I think it enabled the results of last November 4th’s election. The NEA deserves a lot of credit for a Kenyan Muslim Communist Chicago punk ignoramus nobody to be posing as President of the United States.


9 posted on 10/20/2009 2:27:22 PM PDT by RoadTest ( But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do)
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The quickest and most efficient and effective way to defund and disempower the Left TOMORROW is for every family that can homeschool or use private schools to do so.

Every child in public education is nothing but a cash cow, the vehicle for all kinds of federal funding, and a captive audience for the Left’s perversion.


11 posted on 10/20/2009 2:34:14 PM PDT by fightinJAG (Mr. President: Why did you appoint a Communist to your Administration?)
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There's nothing wrong with public education. It worked wonderfully well up until the 1960's. It was the introduction, expansion and ultimate ubiquity of the teacher's unions that ruined public education. Until their power is broken, there will be no fix for public schools.

This is why conservative candidates at every level need to continue to fight for school vouchers. Without vouchers, we condemn the least able, the most poor, and the perennially disenfranchised to criminally poor schools.

12 posted on 10/20/2009 2:34:28 PM PDT by OldDeckHand (No Socialized Medicine, No Way, No How, No Time)
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I often wonder what percentage of freepers send their children to public school. Has there ever been a poll?


13 posted on 10/20/2009 2:44:43 PM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast ( If you have kids, you have no right of privacy that the govt can't flick off your shoulder.)
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Gee, yet ANOTHER issue those crazy Birchers nailed spot on over 50 years ago.

Sadly, now that the hour is VERY LATE, most of those who laughed at is then have stopped laughing.


14 posted on 10/20/2009 2:47:00 PM PDT by Dick Bachert (VFERY)
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btt


16 posted on 10/20/2009 2:55:25 PM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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I imagine most FReepers had public education. Mine was pretty good. My vote for the mess is the entertainment industry.


17 posted on 10/20/2009 2:57:19 PM PDT by ex-snook ("Above all things, truth beareth away the victory.")
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No school can ruin an otherwise good education.


19 posted on 10/20/2009 3:00:44 PM PDT by paulycy (PUBLIC OPTION = PREDATORY PRICING = UNETHICAL COMPETITION.)
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“Is public education necessary?”

No.


24 posted on 10/20/2009 3:24:23 PM PDT by Marie2 (The second mouse gets the cheese.)
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"Is Public Education Necessary?"

Only if you adhere to Marxist/Fabian ideology...

A more important question would be: "Is Public Education Execution Necessary?"

Answer: "Only if we are to have any hope of restoring the Constitutional Republic."

26 posted on 10/20/2009 3:32:02 PM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is another agitator for republicanism like Sam Adams when we need him?)
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Public schools wouldn’t be so bad, but like everything else, they’re increasingly being controlled from Washington.

NCLB changed everything, and for the worse. Challenged schools, like those in inner cities, struggle so much to meet the NCLB accountability benchmarks that it’s all they concentrate on. There’s very little real learning going on there - it’s all about the test.

The kids are turned off. In my inner-city school district 40% of the high school students are chronically absent (miss 15 or more out of 180 days of school). That’s 1 day in 12. That’s enough to get anybody fired from their job quickly, yet 40% of the kids do this. So how are they supposed to learn when they don’t come to school? Of course parents do nothing about it, and neither do the schools. What are they supposed to do, fail ‘em and have their failure and sickly graduation rates drop even further?

But who can blame the kids? The teaching is about nothing but the tests. And the rare creative teacher has no chance. The curriculum is set by central admin. Exactly what will be taught on each and every day is predefined for every teacher. Frequent standardized testing is then used to measure progress. Teachers complain that there’s so much testing there’s no time to teach.

I attended public schools and received a good education. My kids, now in their 30’s, went to public schools and received a fair education. If/when I have grandkids I will lobby my kids not to send them to public schools. I’ll do everything I can to see that they attend private schools or are home schooled. I’ll pay for it myself if I have to do so.

I truly pity the poor folk in our inner cities who have no choice but to send their kids to these institutions of failure. They have no chance.


28 posted on 10/20/2009 3:42:02 PM PDT by Swing_Thought (The doorstep to the temple of wisdom is a knowledge of our own ignorance. - Benjamin Franklin)
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No Sam, it’s not.

I learned little more in my public school career than always watching my back and how to fight dirty when dealing with older, bigger bullies.

Any other questions?


39 posted on 10/20/2009 4:08:10 PM PDT by Dr.Zoidberg (Warning: Sarcasm/humor is always engaged. Failure to recognize this may lead to misunderstandings.)
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The Enemies Within Our Education system


Education Unions (the N.E.A.), School Administrators and Yes - Even Some Teachers

Worm in the Apple

What is to be Done?

Leave No Teachers Behind!

Lefty Teachers Meet the MP3 Player/REcorder



41 posted on 10/20/2009 4:58:30 PM PDT by B-Cause (Replace the entire U.S. Congress - votes these jerks out of office in 2010!)
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45 posted on 10/20/2009 5:28:22 PM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (Anyone who claims to be objective marks himself as hopelessly subjective.)
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