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To: Just mythoughts
The lie that started this thread was "Marx gets Vatican Thumbs Up."

No one is disputing that some Catholics are thoroughly lousy exemplars of Catholic thought and teaching. Teddy the Hutt and Stretch are fine examples of such Catholic lay folks.

But, again, the headline wasn't, "Some Catholic Laity Like Socialism."

So, silly me, I was arguing against that charge that was actually made and not against some other charge that was not made until now. It is about the initial lie that I claim to have taken the field, not about anything else.

Not only does "the Vatican" take a very dim view of Marx, but an article's being printed in L'Osservatore Romano is a lousy reason for taking it as in any way representative of Catholic thought.

Even the occasional idiot bishop, or a whole gaggle of idiot bishops who don't get what "subsidiarity" means and requires do not constitute the Vatican's giving Marx a Thumbs Up.

When, and only when, it is conceded that the original headline and article are false, whether intentionally or mistakenly, then I will entertain some other topics. Until then, well I think I'll enjoy this field that some Catholic haters challenged us on and were defeated.

161 posted on 10/22/2009 6:39:25 PM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin: pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: Mad Dawg
The lie that started this thread was "Marx gets Vatican Thumbs Up." No one is disputing that some Catholics are thoroughly lousy exemplars of Catholic thought and teaching. Teddy the Hutt and Stretch are fine examples of such Catholic lay folks. But, again, the headline wasn't, "Some Catholic Laity Like Socialism." So, silly me, I was arguing against that charge that was actually made and not against some other charge that was not made until now. It is about the initial lie that I claim to have taken the field, not about anything else. Not only does "the Vatican" take a very dim view of Marx, but an article's being printed in L'Osservatore Romano is a lousy reason for taking it as in any way representative of Catholic thought. Even the occasional idiot bishop, or a whole gaggle of idiot bishops who don't get what "subsidiarity" means and requires do not constitute the Vatican's giving Marx a Thumbs Up. When, and only when, it is conceded that the original headline and article are false, whether intentionally or mistakenly, then I will entertain some other topics. Until then, well I think I'll enjoy this field that some Catholic haters challenged us on and were defeated.

Who allows anyone to present themselves as acceptable practicing Catholic? NONE of these lay or standing have had their practices tossed out as being against the Church.

The claim can be made until the sun turns black that Marx is an unacceptable political doctrine, but I can point to nation after nation around this globe that does indeed practice varying degrees of Marxism.

What from our independence that separates US from all other nations is the stated acknowledgment that the 'rights' of life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness come from the Creator. But that is not good enough for the small minds of man because they crave power and authority in establishing themselves as 'gods' not only over these rights but over all rights.

I believe with all my being that every individual has the God given right to choose what path they will follow. But as it is Written the deceiver was filled with the pride of his own intellect and beauty he rebelled and decided he would be God. Welll we are nigh down that path of where all souls that choose to 'see' the kingdom of God (John 3) have passed through this flesh age.

Back when the Heavenly Father established His government recorded in the Judges we are told that the Heavenly Father told Gideon to cull down his army to 300 for the purpose of the people knowing WHO gave them the victory.

Paul says that what happened to them is written for our admonition as to what would be again to bring about the end of this age.

The majority has never ever stayed very long on the side of 'right'. IT is recorded. I call them as I encounter the facts and I know from personal experience it is NOT a lie to state there are Marxist practicing a 'social gospel' right smack in the middle of that church.

But lest you think I believe for an instant this church is alone in whitewashing Marxist ideology as part of their religious doctrine, NOT SO. I came from a majority of Baptist of some form or other, and the majority of them were first born and bred democrat and they HATE with all the 'red' blood passion everything Republican/Conservative, and notions the Ten Commandments are still in effect.

There is never a thread posted here that has anything appearing negative coming out of Rome but the posters believe it is their 'work' to bitterly complain about all the anti-Catholic bigotry, lies, and etc., etc.

Christ warned the first sign of His return was deception, MASS deception and my friend it is gone viral around this globe. And neither you nor I nor your church is going to stamp out that deception.

164 posted on 10/22/2009 7:24:45 PM PDT by Just mythoughts
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