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Obama Will Attend Opening of New Solar Panel Plant That Will Power 3k Homes (Cost: $50k Per Home)
gateway pundit ^ | October 23, 2009 | Jim Hoft

Posted on 10/24/2009 8:24:54 AM PDT by lowbridge

The Florida solar panel plant cost $150 million to build.

A field of orange trees makes more sense.

The state of Florida is completing the final touches on a solar panel plant that cost $150 million to build and will only power 3,000 homes.

Barack Obama will visit this solar-paneled cash dump next week.

The AP reported:

The Desoto Next Generation Solar Energy Center will power a small fraction of Florida Power & Light’s 4-million plus customer base; nevertheless, at 25 megawatts, it will generate nearly twice as much energy as the second-largest photovoltaic facility in the U.S.

The White House said President Barack Obama is scheduled to visit the facility Tuesday, when it officially goes online and begins producing power for the electric grid…

…The Desoto facility and two other solar projects Florida Power & Light is spearheading will generate 110 megawatts of power, cutting greenhouse gas emissions by more than 3.5 million tons. Combined, that’s the equivalent of taking 25,000 cars off the road each year, according to figures cited by the company.

The investment isn’t cheap: The Desoto project cost $150 million to build and the power it supplies to some 3,000 homes and businesses will represent just a sliver of the 4 million-plus accounts served by the state’s largest electric utility.

But there are some economic benefits: It created 400 jobs for draftsmen, carpenters and others whose work dried up as the southwest Florida housing boom came to a closure and the recession set in. Once running, it will require few full-time employees.

The plant cost $150 million to build and will power 3,000 homes or businesses.

In other words it costs about $50,000 per household.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: agw; energy; florida; globalwarming; obama; solar; solarpanels
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To: lowbridge

In other words it costs about $50,000 per household.

I would venture to say based on experience and study, that given 50,000 bucks per household, one could have one heck of a solar system for each household with a big pot of money left over, not to mention the possibility of selling back some of the power produced each year the system is operable.

Then one should also factor in what a “NORMAL” power plant would have cost, and run the numbers on how much more, solar is going to cost, over the inexpensive, available, and affordable fuels that are at present in plentiful supply, like coal and gas.


41 posted on 10/24/2009 9:13:56 AM PDT by wita
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To: Zeppo
IMHO there's nothing wrong with creating a "proof of concept" solar plant of this size in order for a utility to gain experience in the construction process and hurdles as well as in both operating and maintenance, along with providing a benchmark for operational life calculations.

Except that it is not driven by normal decision making processes. It is driven by politicians..

42 posted on 10/24/2009 9:18:11 AM PDT by ColdWater
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To: Sherman Logan
"Don't live in FL, do you?"

Just one week a year and it's spent right on the coast.

So what would you estimate average home electric bills run?

43 posted on 10/24/2009 9:23:01 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
"Makes perfect sense to me. /s"

Who owns this boondoggle? The government (taxpayers)? The local Power Utility (either private (shareholders) or publicly (taxpayers again) owned)?

Who AUTHORISED this expenditure of money and who are they answerable to?

44 posted on 10/24/2009 9:26:48 AM PDT by I am Richard Brandon
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To: lowbridge
According to FPL, it takes 90,500 solar panels to crank out 25mw. That's about 275w per panel.

The FPL page also says 42000mwh is enough to power 3000 homes for a year. IOW, the average house uses 14mwh / year, or about 38kwh / day.

If a panel operates usefully four hours a day on average, an average house would need about 35 panels plus a hefty battery bank, an inverter, and control electronics.

There's a guy who posted an article on how to make a 60-watt panel for about $100, not including batteries and inverter and labor. It was to power his remote campsite in Arizona. He wrote another article on how he made a windmill using sliced PVC tubing for the turbine blades. Oh, well. A start.

45 posted on 10/24/2009 9:27:25 AM PDT by cynwoody
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To: lowbridge

Such a deal! But in Florida it gets dark at night..


46 posted on 10/24/2009 9:28:22 AM PDT by Cheetahcat (Zero the Wright kind of Racist! We are in a state of War with Democrats)
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To: I am Richard Brandon
Who AUTHORISED this expenditure of money and who are they answerable to?

I don't know but in CA there are regulations for utilities to meet goals for renewable energy sources and cater to local green politicians. SCE was planning to build a large solar plant out in the middle of nowhere and all the politicians were bragging. Then some enviornmental group sued to stop construction because of some lizard or something.

47 posted on 10/24/2009 9:30:21 AM PDT by ColdWater
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

yahoo weather shows 85 degress with isolated thunderstorms for this area. lets hope.

my yard needs the rain anyway


48 posted on 10/24/2009 9:32:20 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: DannyTN
The maintenance cost on them alone will equal the cost of producing coal fired electricity. They have to be cleaned weekly and the cells become weaker as they break down over a relatively short period of time. 10 years would be an exceptional life span, if they are used continuously. And then there is the added cost of incorporating such an unstable and unreliable form of power into the grid.

The cost will be phenomenal and electricity bills will more than triple to make up the gross inefficiency of these systems.

49 posted on 10/24/2009 9:32:42 AM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP
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To: cynwoody
“FP and L” Florida pilfer and loot!
50 posted on 10/24/2009 9:37:57 AM PDT by WellyP
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To: lowbridge
…The Desoto facility and two other solar projects Florida Power & Light is spearheading will generate 110 megawatts of power, cutting greenhouse gas emissions by more than 3.5 million tons. Combined, that’s the equivalent of taking 25,000 cars off the road each year, according to figures cited by the company.

The writer again mixes up watts and watt hours.

51 posted on 10/24/2009 9:59:08 AM PDT by ColdWater
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To: lowbridge
I don't know where the 150 Mil came from, but if they borrowed it, at 4% the interest alone comes to 6 Mil/year, or $2000 per house per year, about 175/month per house, pretty much an electric bill in interest alone.

What do they do when it rains?

52 posted on 10/24/2009 10:04:57 AM PDT by sportutegrl (If liberals could do math, they would be conservatives.)
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To: sportutegrl
I don't know where the 150 Mil came from, but if they borrowed it,

They borrowed a large portion of it from the taxpayers.

53 posted on 10/24/2009 10:10:10 AM PDT by ColdWater
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To: Bryanw92

We’re building one of these solar cell farms in north Florida too...

Would you mind telling me where? I have searched and not found any info on this.


54 posted on 10/24/2009 10:13:37 AM PDT by abbi_normal_2
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To: abbi_normal_2

It’s near Baldwin. A private company is building it and will operate it. JEA (Jacksonville) is planning to buy its power output. They say that it’s 150 MW.


55 posted on 10/24/2009 10:26:50 AM PDT by Bryanw92 (Question O-thority!)
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To: lowbridge

If I went to the bank and tried to borrow $50,000 to put solar onto my home, they would laugh me into the next state.

Only the government can find ways to squander money on the grand scale that they do so.

What makes it even more putrid is that they make bid celebrations about the event, and the highest of the high show up- on the taxpayer nickel to tell us how wonderful it all is.

THE EMPEROR’S NEW CLOTHES !!!!!!!!


56 posted on 10/24/2009 10:51:56 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: xkaydet65

But the haloed one won’t go to Berlin to celebrate the 20th anniv of the Wall’s coming down. Yeah he gets it. (sarc)’

The One also didn’t have Queen Elizabeth at the D-Day celebrations in France this spring.

Despicable. She is the ONLY world leader who was a legitimate veteran of WW II.


57 posted on 10/24/2009 11:08:41 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: YOUGOTIT

. And when we have another hurricane in that area the solar panels will also be gone. “”

Will the solar panels turn into objects which can decapitate a person in a hurricane?

Who will be responsible for that?


58 posted on 10/24/2009 11:11:17 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: ColdWater

Can you turn that windsheild into a solar panel?
Just asking.


59 posted on 10/24/2009 11:12:32 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: ridesthemiles
Can you turn that windsheild into a solar panel? Just asking.

No. But cars make great solar collectors. Especially if the windows are closed.

60 posted on 10/24/2009 11:15:31 AM PDT by ColdWater
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