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To: hocndoc
(I joke that the first 6 weeks of med school was learning to say 6 syllable words and that when it comes to pronouncing those fancy words, who ever says them loudest in right. I don’t feel really challenged until I have to diagram the sentence to understand it.)

I think that there are bad things that happen a certain number of times in the general population ...


Thanks for responding. In the following paragraph from the NVIC site, they state "bad things" numbers in what I would deem more than (the vague) "a certain number of times." Either their information is all "woo," or the Gardasil shot needs to be looked into as to its efficiency. Yes, your 6-syllable word link that you originally sent was well advanced. Simplifying speech (while trying not to condescend) seems a positive, because everyone needs help from time to time regardless of their education. Here's that paragraph:

"In the third article, written by government health officials, it was revealed that 1 in every 1,855 Gardasil shots is followed by a bad health outcome report to the government’s Vaccine Adverse Events Reporting System. These bad health outcomes reported after Gardasil shots include lots of girls suddenly passing out and having seizures within minutes or hours of getting vaccinated and suffering head injuries and broken bones when they hit the floor. In fact, there is a larger than expected rate of girls passing out after getting Gardasil vaccine" --from NVIC, Gardasil & Swine Flu Vaccines: Inconvenient Truths.

While "lots of girls" is vague as well, I'm not convinced this immunization is worth the reported/documented side effects.
66 posted on 10/29/2009 8:25:50 AM PDT by mlizzy ("It is impossible to walk rapidly and be unhappy" --Mother Teresa of Calcutta.)
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To: mlizzy

I’ve posted a table showing reported adverse events on my blog, here http://www.lifeethics.org/www.lifeethics.org/2009/10/hpv-vaccine-adverse-reports-prep-for.html from the JAMA August 2009 report on risks and benefits of the vaccine, here, http://jama.ama-assn.org/cgi/content/full/302/7/750 (Freepmail me if you can’t access and I’ll send the pdf)JAMA. 2009;302(7):750-757 www.jama

Most of the problem was with fainting and with clotting problems, but almost all of those last had other reasons identified or proved unreliable.

Anything that has an effect will have side effects. People get nauseous, throw up and faint when we draw blood, much less when we give them shots.

Teens faint more than almost any other group, in my experience. It’s a lot less likely and a lot easier to talk a 4 year old into a shot than a 12 year old - the older child has to try to control himself/herself, while the younger can scream and holler and keep her blood pressure up.

The vasovagal or fainting reaction looks like a seizure, but it’s not a true seizure, with brainwave changes, etc.

A lot of girls, 25% or more of 11 and 12 year olds, are getting this shot. That’s why there are a lot of fainting episodes and other, more serious side effects.


67 posted on 10/29/2009 2:33:35 PM PDT by hocndoc (http://www.LifeEthics.org (I've got a mustard seed and I'm not afraid to use it.))
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