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To: NCC-1701

In Judge Carter’s opinion,
- prior to Obama’s swearing-in, Alan Keyes DID have standing

- after Obama’s swearing in, Obama IS POTUS and can only be removed by Congress. Only Congress has standing, as is outlined in the Constitution.

We at Free Republic view Obama’s eligibility to be in question, therefore the swearing-in was questionable. Judge Carter views the swearing in ceremony as the end-all.

OTOH - I think it will be nearly impossible for Obama to run for POTUS in 2012 without disclosing his BC. As soon as Obama officially declares himself a candidate for 2012, anyone who decides to run for POTUS can file suit for proof of eligibility.


139 posted on 10/29/2009 11:30:01 AM PDT by kidd (Obama: The triumph of hope over evidence)
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To: kidd
...prior to Obama’s swearing-in, Alan Keyes DID have standing

I suggest you read that again. Judge Carter noted that Keyes claim to damages, since he received less than one percent of the votes cast, was "too speculative to establish standing."

...- after Obama’s swearing in, Obama IS POTUS and can only be removed by Congress. Only Congress has standing, as is outlined in the Constitution.

He didn't say that either.

148 posted on 10/29/2009 11:35:34 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: kidd

“...As soon as Obama officially declares himself a candidate for 2012, anyone who decides to run for POTUS can file suit for proof of eligibility....”

Let’s say that happens. Wouldn’t he have to declare for re-election by 2011? Say a Pub throws their hat in the ring then. He ore she could ask for it right off the bat. If he then produces it and it shows what we all think it shows, and it proves he is an illegal usurper, couldn’t he be kicked out of office then and there? That would mean we would have to deal with this PØS for another two years.

Well, I can dream can’t I?


154 posted on 10/29/2009 11:37:24 AM PDT by NCC-1701 (ON 1-19-09 GAS WAS, ON AVERAGE IN MEMPHIS, $1.43 A GALLON.)
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To: kidd

I think this is why Obama is in such a hurry to lay into place as much Marxist restructuring and funding as he can without regard to political consequences to the Democrat Party. He knows he has just part of one term to git ‘er done.” He knows conservatives will be after him if he tries to run again.

The dems are acting stupidly to cooperate with him as he wrecks their party with radical actions. He belonged to a socialist party before he ran for the Senate so obviously he has no love nor loyality for the jack asses.


167 posted on 10/29/2009 11:44:13 AM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: kidd
I think it will be nearly impossible for Obama to run for POTUS in 2012 without disclosing his BC. As soon as Obama officially declares himself a candidate for 2012, anyone who decides to run for POTUS can file suit for proof of eligibility.

Probably the courts will rule that no one has the right to be President, so no substantial injury to such a right occurrs if their opponent is not eligible to the office. Just watch. (only half sarcastic)

I think we need a Constitutional Amendment, which we will not get, to the effect that: "A natural born citizen is one born of two citizen parents, in the United States, to include any territories in which persons become citizens of the US upon their birth. Person's born to parents serving the country but outside of it shall be deemed to have been born in the United States for purposes of determining Natural Born Status. The President Elect shall provide certified official birth records to the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, or other documentation which the Chief Justice finds acceptable, in order to demonstrate that he meets the Natural Born Citizen Requirement."

(I'm sure that could be tweaked up a bit)

Absent that, or state requirements for the same sort of documentation before a candiate can be placed on the ballot, Bammie will be the Democrat's nominee in 2012. Assuming that there is a 2012 election.

391 posted on 10/29/2009 2:34:01 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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