[BigGuy22]

The only result I want is to have 0bama produce his long form birth certificate.

Why? The Certification of Live Birth is an official state document proving when and where he was born.

Beyond that, if the courts choose to ignore their own previously stated definition of natural born citizen, then I guess it's their business.

Actually, Judge Carter commented on that issue, and he doesn't see it your way:

"3. Plaintiffs presume that the words of Emmerich de Vattel, John Jay, and John Bingham alone empower this court to define the natural born citizen clause. The Complaint conveniently chooses to ignore Congress’ long history of defining citizenship, whether naturalized or by birth. See Charles Gordon. “Who Can be President pf the United States: The Unresolved Enigma,” 28 Md. L. Rev. 1, 7-22 (1968) (contrasting 150 years of active Congressional legislation against judicial restraint)."

(Footnote, page 22)

[LibertyRocks]

If you had been following this all along you would know that Hawaii has produced COLBs for KNOWN foreigners during the time period in question. A Hawaiian COLB does NOT prove date or place of birth — only the documents on file in the Vital Statistics Office in HI (the ones that are now sealed) would prove that one way or another.

Also, if this was acceptable proof, and everything was in order why hasn’t Obama — through ANY of the cases brought — simply produced the document to the court and end ALL of this in a moment??? Instead he spends 1.7 MILLION+ to keep ALL of his documents secret? Who does that except someone with something to hide?

[MHGinTN]

The n00b opined, "The Certification of Live Birth is an official state document proving when and where he was born." And tell us stealthy obot n00b, did Judge Carter see a state issued CoLB from Barry/Hawaii, or are you just like the obots at FR playing word games to deceive readers into believing some legal provenance-proven document was shown to the court?

This is getting sickening and it proves that Freerepublic has 'evolved' and is no longer a conservative website monitored to sweep up the trash that spills here from the DNC.