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HPD: Woman fatally shoots car burglar
Chron ^ | 11/3/2009 | Staff

Posted on 11/03/2009 3:30:57 AM PST by Red in Blue PA

Edited on 11/03/2009 11:29:03 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

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To: Frenchtown Dan

“Justified or not, killing someone is not a pleasurable experience.”

Killing anything is not particularly pleasurable in itself, even for a hunter or butcher. But there is the offsetting reward of knowing your are providing your family or someone else with food, or ridding the world of a monster that only a bleeding-heart would call a “someone.”

Hank


62 posted on 11/03/2009 11:03:34 AM PST by Hank Kerchief
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To: Huebolt

That’s happened a few times. One incident had the DPS trooper under fire, the pickup driver had an M1 Garand that he was coming back from the range with. He happened to have several clips (not magazines, clips) still unexpended and upon seeing the trooper under fire, he proceeded to create some withering covering fire.


63 posted on 11/03/2009 11:43:45 AM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Hank Kerchief

“Ridding the world of a monster”.

What complete fabrication of b.s. Since when is a car thief a monster? Granted, he’s not a nice guy, but a monster? Really, now.

Oh, I get it. You guys are radical muslims. You know that sharia law crap, amputate a few fingers for stealing a loaf of bread, stone a women to death for looking at another man. I should have know better.

“In accordance with the Qur’an and several hadith, theft is punished by imprisonment or amputation of hands or feet,”

You’re a radical wacko muslim.


64 posted on 11/03/2009 2:33:38 PM PST by Frenchtown Dan
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To: Doogle
(voting was quick and easy this AM...POLL IS 1.7 MILES AWAY)

Mine is less than 1/2 mile. Although I had a Doctors appointment to go to first. Hit the polls on the way to work from the doctor's. Took about 5-10 minutes

65 posted on 11/03/2009 2:42:02 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: afraidfortherepublic
Not legal in other states

But it's Texas, and WE DON'T CARE what's legal in other states.

Use of deadly force to stop "theft during the night" is specificly justified under Texas statutes. Texas Penal Code section 9.42

9.42. Deadly Force to Protect Property


A person is justified in using deadly force against another to protect land or tangible, movable property:

(1) if he would be justified in using force against the other under Section 9.41; and

(2) when and to the degree he reasonably believes the deadly force is immediately necessary:

(A) to prevent the other's imminent commission of arson, burglary, robbery, aggravated robbery, theft during the nighttime, or criminal mischief during the nighttime; or

(B) to prevent the other who is fleeing immediately after committing burglary, robbery, aggravated robbery, or theft during the nighttime from escaping with the property; and

(3) he reasonably believes that:

(A) the land or property cannot be protected or recovered by any other means; or

(B) the use of force other than deadly force to protect or recover the land or property would expose the actor or another to a substantial risk of death or serious bodily injury.

Buggar got what his ilk deserve.

Don't want to get the shotgun enema? Don't break into people's cars or houses in Texas.

66 posted on 11/03/2009 2:53:52 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: RadiationRomeo
My heart doesn't bleed for him, but his heart probably was bleeding!

Depending on what that shotgun was loaded with, and how close she was to the not so dearly departed, it seems quite likely.

Course I wonder if she didn't hit her car too.

67 posted on 11/03/2009 3:03:44 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: Venturer
It’s just a car and a man has lost his life. Is her car worth the life of a man?

His decision, not hers. He apparently thought it was worth the risk and gambled that no one would resist with deadly force. He lost.

68 posted on 11/03/2009 3:05:23 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: I Buried My Guns
My only concern is that I don't shoot my neighbor thru the wall.

A good reason to choose a shotgun. Even light birdshot will tenderize a burgler at close range, but is unlikely to penetrate even two layers of sheet rock. Or at least penetrate and have much energy left.

This woman lived in an apartment, but given that she shot him from her balcony, she probably had something a bit heavier than birdshot.

69 posted on 11/03/2009 3:09:43 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

She’d be legal in most carry states as long as the offender turned to her in an attack manner. Screwdriver=gun in a life threatening situation.

Hope all her shots were in his front......


70 posted on 11/03/2009 3:30:45 PM PST by Shamrock-DW
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To: Frenchtown Dan

Since you keep bringing it up and using it as a weapon against anyone on the woman’s side, I don’t feel this question is inappropriate.

Exactly how many people have you killed? Be specific. You’re the one using it as a qualification.


71 posted on 11/03/2009 4:48:25 PM PST by Spike Knotts
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To: Frenchtown Dan
I think a history lesson is in order. An Old West judge was asked about the hanging offense in Texas. His answer was Texas doesn't hang horse thieves to stop them from stealing horses. They hang horse thieves to prevent others from stealing horses.
72 posted on 11/03/2009 6:31:16 PM PST by Shooter 2.5 (NRA /Patron - TSRA- IDPA)
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To: Shooter 2.5

Way back in time, a horse theif was punished severely because it deprived and owner of their livelyhood. The Texas law morphed from horses to vehicles.


73 posted on 11/03/2009 6:36:37 PM PST by Texas resident ( Doing my part to piss off the heathen left.)
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To: Spike Knotts

You’ve totally misunderstood me.
I’m actually on the womans’ side. I just think that by killing the jerk, she’s probably going to have a rough time living with it. It’s not easy.

I really don’t know how many I killed. It was war, and I try to forget about it, and that’s what I mean. Killing isn’t that hard, it’s living with it that’s the hard part.

Maybe she won’t have that problem.


74 posted on 11/04/2009 7:18:33 AM PST by Frenchtown Dan
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To: Shooter 2.5

Judge Roy Bean?

The History lesson wasn’t a lesson at all. Hanging didn’t stop Horse theft.

Death penalty for theft. Does sound like Sharia law. I thought we were supposed to be better than them.

I can only think of a few cases where theft warranted the death penalty. Ken lay & Bernie Madoff come to mind.
Now, armed robbery is a different case.


75 posted on 11/04/2009 9:29:40 AM PST by Frenchtown Dan
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To: Frenchtown Dan

It didn’t? Are you sure about that? Did the cowboys use alarm systems on their horses when they went in for a drink at the local saloon? Did they have to take off their saddles and rifles when they went inside?

Did they chain the horse to the hitching post like it was a ten speed bicycle?

We are better than the muzzies. They don’t provide welfare to anyone who’s too lazy to work but still has the energy to steal.


76 posted on 11/04/2009 2:42:37 PM PST by Shooter 2.5 (NRA /Patron - TSRA- IDPA)
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To: catman67

YES, it sure will. But, it really should not. His shooting was justified, I feel.


77 posted on 11/04/2009 3:06:17 PM PST by 2harddrive
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To: Shooter 2.5

Alarm systems on horses, ten speed bicycles and horses at the same time, get serious or your argument is worthless.

Listen man, you’ve got your point of view, and I’ve got mine. I happen to be in favor of capitol punishment and you certainly are also. I just don’t think that it’s justified for a simple burglary, and you do. No skin off my back, I don’t really care all that much.

But getting to the cowboys (much more interesting) well, let’s see now. If I was a horse thief, and 1850 or so, first off, I wouldn’t steal the horses from the guys in the local watering hole, probably friends of mine in there anyway. Not a good idea in plain view from other townfolk unless the whole town was drunk, but not a likely scenario.

I’d go in the saloon and see who’s there. If it were some well-to-do guy gettin plowed, I’d go to their ranch while they were sh!t-faced and steel horses from there.

But, we do agree on another thing besides capitol punishment. I still believe we are better than the “muzzies” also, as long as it lasts, since we can’t forget who our president is and how he wants to “change” the country.


78 posted on 11/04/2009 3:12:49 PM PST by Frenchtown Dan
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