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To: bearsgirl90

you don’t need “god” in this political debate.

in fact using “god” only diminishes your argument which is what the left is using in court. Since YOU use god this is a religious only isse and the court has to overturn normal marriage.

HOWEVER if you use logical non religious based arguments, the homosexuals have no way to win.

(ie marriage is an institution and society rewards the institution not the individual. ie marrige promotes the future of society)


12 posted on 11/04/2009 6:21:46 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: longtermmemmory
...if you use logical non religious based arguments, the homosexuals have no way to win.

Evidence in nature is more than sufficient.

Making secular arguments are rooted scientific facts the drive-by media filth does not want to address.

Since the evolutionists, along with other atheists see fit to unfairly target and ridicule creationists, I separate myself from them because their ideals are just as ethereal, if not more so...

Evolution is only possible with HETEROSEXUAL relationships.

The secular standard of mammalian reproductive biology is also confirmed by the book of Genesis.

So, for the more Biblically inclined, please note that any clergyman (like Anglican Bishop Gene Robinson) or any other false Christian who advocates homosexual monogamy is blaspheming the Holy Spirit - in terms of what the Bible says. (This atheist would like to see commentary from our more expert Christian practitioners here on FR about that particular topic of blaspheming the Holy Spirit.)

19 posted on 11/04/2009 6:44:52 AM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (Arjuna, why have you have dropped your bow???)
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To: longtermmemmory

I think you HAVE to use God in the argument, but in a legal not religious way. To wit:

“We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights...That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. That whenever any form of government becomes destructive to these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness.”

This is a resounding statement of the importance of the Natural Law and the fact that rights are endowed us by God and NOT by the state. Neither the state nor the people by ANY process can vote themselves a fictitious right to marry a member of the same sex.


32 posted on 11/04/2009 7:17:54 AM PST by Claud
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To: longtermmemmory

I totally agree

as soon as his name is put in then it plays into the lefts hand.

I’m not religious as most I know and it boggles the homosexuals/left why I and everyone I know are opposed to it


36 posted on 11/04/2009 4:51:24 PM PST by manc (Marriage is between a man and a woman, end of. -end racism end affirmative action)
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To: longtermmemmory

I totally agree

as soon as his name is put in then it plays into the lefts hand.

I’m not religious as most I know and it boggles the homosexuals/left why I and everyone I know are opposed to it and think it is disugsting


37 posted on 11/04/2009 4:51:34 PM PST by manc (Marriage is between a man and a woman, end of. -end racism end affirmative action)
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