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To: markomalley

A RINO POS like Dede and Newt. If we had NY-23 and did not have this clown - it probably would not have passed.


73 posted on 11/07/2009 10:04:09 PM PST by Frantzie (Judge David Carter - democrat & dishonorable Marine like John Murtha.)
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To: Frantzie

Actually Dede opposed the public option.

The blame of Ny23 rest solely on the third party candidate and those who backed him.


84 posted on 11/07/2009 11:16:21 PM PST by GregH
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“If we had NY-23 and did not have this clown - it probably would not have passed.”

That’s not the case at all. If Pelosi didn’t know early today that she had the votes she needed for the bill to pass, there would not have been a vote. It would have been delayed till she could buy off the requisite 218, however she would get them.

Her agreement to allow abortion amendment was to buy Democrat votes. She promised they could put up the amendment and, if it passed, the pro-life Democrats agreed to vote for the major bill. Nancy didn’t give a rat’s patootie about giving up the abortion amendment. If it came down to it SHE would have voted for it, or at least made damned sure the abortion amendment had enough votes to pass*, to hold on to those 8-10 pro-life Dems, in order to win the ‘bigger, better’ issue, the bill itself.

Why do you think Boehner kept asking the Dem leaders for a guarantee that the abortion amendment would be in the final bill? Because he knows it will get knocked out or watered down in conference. But in the meanwhile, allowing it to pass bought off 8-10 Dems who would have voted against the main bill.

If you watched the voting, 39 Blue Dogs were ‘allowed’ to vote against the bill because she had all she needed for it to pass. That allows the Blue Dogs to go home and say “I voted against it.” She didn’t care if she got only 218, so long as it passed. If she didn’t have Cao and Owens, 2 of those Blue Dogs wouldn’t have been allowed to vote against it. And, in the same way that she ‘allowed’ 39 Blue Dogs to vote against it, once the die was cast, and the Dems had their 218 votes, the Republican leadership ‘allowed’ Cao to vote for it.


86 posted on 11/07/2009 11:42:16 PM PST by EDINVA
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To: Frantzie

>> If we had NY-23 and did not have this clown - it probably would not have passed <<

If you really think that, then your understanding of Pelosi’s operational style is naive in the extreme.


123 posted on 11/08/2009 5:44:44 AM PST by Hawthorn
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