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Defending Cao ( Why was he the lone Republican to vote for the healthcare bill?)
American Spectator ^ | 11/8/2009 | Quinn Hillyer

Posted on 11/08/2009 8:22:32 PM PST by SeekAndFind

Conservatives need to take a deep breath, relax, and stop bashing Joseph Cao. The man never claimed to be a fully committed economic conservative. He represents a district that is about 75 percent Democrat and 62 percent black (or thereabouts).

He SAID ALL ALONG, FOR MONTHS, that he would probably vote for health care reform if it included strong pro-life language such as the Stupak Amendment. He stuck to his guns, even though his district is not majority pro-life. He is a traditionalist Catholic, former Jesuit seminarian, and he stands up for the principles he holds dear, one of which is the sanctity of innocent life. He is willing to lose his office on behalf of that pro-life stance. And he has taken a leadership role in anti-Communist measures, meeting with the Dalai Lama when Obama wouldn't, and calling out the Vietnamese Communist government when too many these days refuse to recognize that Vietnam's mostly free market does NOT mean it is a free society. He is a thoughtful, principled, well-intentioned public servant.

He also represents a district that is fundamentally liberal. Congressmen have two roles: they are delegates, meaning their voters delegate to them the ability to use their judgment on complicated policy matters; and they are representatives, meaning they are there, specifically, to represent the will of their constituents. Serving in Congress is often a balancing act: When your district slightly favors one course of action but you strongly favor the opposite, you do what you believe and try to explain to your constituents why you bucked their wishes. That is being a delegate.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 111th; cao; healthcare; josephcao; neworleans; obamacare
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To: SeekAndFind

If he’s pro-live and anti-Commie’s then he’s okay by me as that’s my prime reason for voting Republican.


101 posted on 11/08/2009 11:08:51 PM PST by bronxville
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To: Psalm 144

Same smell. Maybe it’s osmosis.


102 posted on 11/08/2009 11:19:41 PM PST by XenaLee
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To: SeekAndFind; Jim Robinson; All
For all those defending Cao -- this just in!
Cao To Steele: Come And Get Me -- Just Remember You Need My District
103 posted on 11/08/2009 11:21:04 PM PST by Just A Nobody ( (Better Dead than RED! NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA))
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To: BobL

If Cao “listens” to his constituents the same way Jefferson did, why not run as a Democrat. That’s the most logical thing to do. Whereas, running as a Republican means doing the tough thing by “..........teaching them how to fish so they can feed themselves forever” as we used to say in Nam.
It’s nonsense for us to support RINOs who will only follow the same Democrat plan for their constituents.


104 posted on 11/08/2009 11:52:10 PM PST by Dapper 26
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To: XenaLee

Well, with references to how ‘smart’ this was, that the French Quarter provides higher ground for more enlightened understanding of the district, failed seminarian, and the obvious put up job in a small mutual admiration society . . .

. . . I am getting some whiffs of KY jelly in the mix too.

Could be wrong, and it really doesn’t matter.

What matters is the unconstitional encroachment on the rights of us all.


105 posted on 11/08/2009 11:53:04 PM PST by Psalm 144 (What did you think NEW WORLD ORDER meant? The Constitution? States' rights? Individual liberty?)
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To: Dapper 26

If Cao “listens” to his constituents the same way Jefferson did, why not run as a Democrat. That’s the most logical thing to do.


He will. As others on this thread have predicted he will pull a Scozzafava after gaming the GOP for all he can get.


106 posted on 11/08/2009 11:55:32 PM PST by Psalm 144 (What did you think NEW WORLD ORDER meant? The Constitution? States' rights? Individual liberty?)
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To: SeekAndFind

I’ve had issues with American Spectator in the past. I don’t subscribe to it any longer since I can read this kind of mealy-mouthing in Newsweek, or Time or any other liberal rag.


107 posted on 11/08/2009 11:57:12 PM PST by Dapper 26
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To: SeekAndFind
He may be anti-communist, but he is VERY pro-socialist. He is NOT even a RINO. He is a liar.
108 posted on 11/08/2009 11:57:37 PM PST by John D
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To: Psalm 144

Figures. Republicans get no more money from me until they get their act together. Besides, I kinda like the more expensive Scotch I can now afford.


109 posted on 11/09/2009 12:01:30 AM PST by Dapper 26
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To: hsalaw

His district is a STY damnit!!!


110 posted on 11/09/2009 12:08:18 AM PST by Atchafalaya (Atchafalaya Basin; when you're there , thats the best)
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To: ClearCase_guy; Impy; Clintonfatigued; fieldmarshaldj
>>> This appears to be an obligation for Republicans who represent Liberal districts. Off hand, I cannot think of a recent Democrat who acquiesced to the Conservative leanings of the district which they represent. I guess they have different obligations. I'm not saying I don't understand Cao's situation <<

There are no Democrats representing a district as heavily tilted towards the other party as Cao is doing for the GOP (as Impy pointed out, the "solid Dem" regions of the country are alot more solid than the solid GOP regions of this country... there are urban areas that give Dems 95% of the vote but even the staunchest part of flyover country would never give vote 95% GOP).

But when it comes situation, voting with the GOP on some high profile bills but voted with the Dems on Obamacare some other major economic legislation... the situation is no different for Dem Congressman in super GOP district's. Cao's district has a PVI rating of a +28 Democrat than the rest of the country. The Dem is the most lopsided GOP district is Gene Taylor, he's Trent Lott's former house seat in Mississippi which has a PVI rating of +20 (not as strongly Republican as Cao's district is Dem, but still pretty lopsided GOP majority). Taylor votes with the GOP on most issues but he refuses to switch parties, and yes, Taylor voted AGAINST Obamacare, as did most Dems in districts that are majority GOP by double digits.

I could probably make a good case that Cao votes with us on major issues more often than Taylor votes with the Dems on major issues, even though Cao's in a district harder for his party to win. But I can't be sure without having data on all of Cao's votes and that won't be available to Jan.

Bottom is the Dems in heavy GOP district "acquiesced" to their constituency on health care just as Cao did. I'm not saying that was the right thing to do, or that I justify Cao's vote, just saying that's the reality. I agree it won't earn him any sympathy from the left. Whether Cao votes with the GOP 100% of the time or 0% of the time, the Dems in district will hate him and demand his head on a platter simply because he's not a black Democrat (Mark Kirk and Joe Lieberman do the Dem's bidding on most major issues, and they basically hate them for shaking hands with President Bush once). But here's the thing... if Cao had vocally opposed Obamacare the Dems could motivate more Dem turnout by running ads about how "mean ol' Republican Cao and his racist Republican supports want granny to die from cancer". That would motivate Dem to turnout against him in droves. The same would be true in reverse for Taylor's district... Republicans who show up on election day are going to vote against no matter what, but if he voted in favor of Obama care, Mississippi conservatives would be up in arms and beat down the door to defeat him. In both cases, low turnout helps the incumbent win re-election in his district.

I get ticked off at conservatives who say we should give Peter King a pass for being a RINO douchebag because he's from "blue state New York" (nevermind the fact HIS district voted AGAINST Obama), but I can really see the difficulty of trying to represent a district so lopsided against you. I wouldn't vote in favor of Obamacare, but neither would I give the Dems ammo by speaking out against an issue the leftist constiuency clearly wants.

111 posted on 11/09/2009 12:40:06 AM PST by BillyBoy (Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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To: SeekAndFind

He knew damned well that pro life amendment was going to be stripped from the bill in the end.

NO EXCUSES


112 posted on 11/09/2009 1:34:39 AM PST by Carley (THE MEDIA UNDERSTANDS CREDENTIALS BUT DOES NOT UNDERSTAND PRINCIPLES)
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To: Dapper 26

“If Cao “listens” to his constituents the same way Jefferson did, why not run as a Democrat.”

I respect your view - it’s a tough call for me, but keep in mind that Cao probably figured that he NEVER had a prayer of winning in that district - so he was in quite a jam, once he did win.


113 posted on 11/09/2009 3:15:40 AM PST by BobL (Real Men don't use Tag Lines)
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To: SeekAndFind

BULLBUTTER!!!

That sorry sap-sucker waited to cast his vote till the last second!!!

That way he could go back to his district and placate the dunderheads back there with this ONE vote!

He assumes he is safe for 2010...

That’s ok...He can live in that bubble till then...


114 posted on 11/09/2009 4:46:32 AM PST by stevie_d_64 (Go ahead, call me a racist...One more time...)
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To: Cicero
Finally, his vote did not make a crucial difference. It was regretable, but unlike the Olympia Snowe vote, it didn’t break a stalemate or tip the balance.

Not to defend dnowball, but her vote was a committee vote and it made the count 14-9 vs 13-10.

It was symbolic in that she was the only pubbie to vote it out of committee but it had no real effect on the outcome.

115 posted on 11/09/2009 5:13:59 AM PST by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorist savages - In Honor of Standing Wolf)
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To: Cicero
Finally, his vote did not make a crucial difference. It was regretable, but unlike the Olympia Snowe vote, it didn’t break a stalemate or tip the balance.

Not to defend snowball, but her vote was a committee vote and it made the count 14-9 vs 13-10.

It was symbolic in that she was the only pubbie to vote it out of committee but it had no real effect on the outcome.

116 posted on 11/09/2009 5:14:42 AM PST by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorist savages - In Honor of Standing Wolf)
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To: SeekAndFind

There needs to be no other explanation other than he set aside what is good for the country in exchange for keeping his job.


117 posted on 11/09/2009 5:29:27 AM PST by RetSignman (Townhalls ..."We have seen the Patriots and they are us")
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To: SeekAndFind

Gretchen and Dave did an awesome job of interviewing him this morning.


118 posted on 11/09/2009 5:37:17 AM PST by Mercat (Reluctant glenbeckian)
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To: SeekAndFind
It provided the democrats the fig-leaf they needed to claim that the bill had bipartisan support.

The "bi-partisan" vote was against obycare. Ramming through a unwanted bill, by three votes, one of them an R vote is not a victory.

119 posted on 11/09/2009 7:53:04 AM PST by thirst4truth (www.Believer.com)
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To: SeekAndFind
Conservatives need to take a deep breath, relax, and stop bashing Joseph Cao...

It's a shame the article couldn't support the proposition.

120 posted on 11/09/2009 8:10:16 AM PST by gogeo (Democrats want to support the troops by accusing them of war crimes.)
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