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Obama orders Miranda rights in Afghanistan
examiner.com ^ | June 10, 2009 | David Leach

Posted on 11/17/2009 10:34:10 AM PST by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!

Well, now we know why Obama doesn't use the term "war on terror" anymore - he doesn't consider terrorism an act of war. Instead, he has taken us back to the days of Bill Clinton, when terrorist acts were treated like a "crime."

In a story reported in The Weekly Standard , Representative Mike Rogers (R-Mich) is accusing the Obama administration of ordering the F.B.I. to read Miranda rights to detainees being held at U.S. military facilities in Afghanistan.

This is creating a great deal of damage on the battlefield, not to mention how it is affecting the security of our military men and women overseas. Said Rogers:

I witnessed it myself, talked to the people on the ground. What you have is two very separate missions colliding in the field in a combat zone. Again, anytime that you offer confusion in that environment that's already chaotic and confusing enough, you jeopardize a soldier's life.

Why would Obama issue such an order? It's all a part of a policy shift referred to as the new "global justice initiative," which was described in a May 28th Los Angeles Times article:

(Excerpt) Read more at examiner.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: afghan; bho44; impeachbho44; mirandarights; obama; war
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives

First thought at sight of title:

What is our LAW? Upon WHAT law does he make this order?


21 posted on 11/17/2009 11:03:37 AM PST by RebelTXRose
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To: SERKIT

Oh brother!They shouldn’t have that BS in AMERICA! (One more 1960s pile of horsecrap for us to keep stepping in)


22 posted on 11/17/2009 11:04:23 AM PST by Mac from Cleveland (Dreams from My Father--food, shelter, and education from some typical white folks)
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives

What say you, Gen. Patton? Or you, Gen. MacArthur? Or you, Admiral Halsey? Or you, Gen. LeMay?


23 posted on 11/17/2009 11:04:39 AM PST by Inwoodian
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives

Miranda rights are supposedly established under the Constitution. Is Obama claiming the authority of the US Constitution extends to foreign countries? If not, under what authority does he submit they have those rights?


24 posted on 11/17/2009 11:06:37 AM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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bm


25 posted on 11/17/2009 11:07:08 AM PST by the anti-liberal
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives

Forgive my ignorance, but doesn’t the media ignore most anything resembling a fact? :)


26 posted on 11/17/2009 11:08:47 AM PST by the lone haranguer (Pray for Obama: Psalm 109:8)
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives

Forgive my ignorance, but doesn’t the media ignore most anything resembling a fact? :)


27 posted on 11/17/2009 11:08:56 AM PST by the lone haranguer (Pray for Obama: Psalm 109:8)
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To: Blue Highway

You can’t interrogate the dead, unfortunately.

You could, however, interrogate, arrange for their escape, and then shoot them as they run.

I guess you have to think outside the box a little.


28 posted on 11/17/2009 11:10:15 AM PST by RinaseaofDs
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To: tacticalogic

The authority vested in him BECAUSE HE WON and he wants to blame and bash Bush and suck up to the crony U.N. and socialist Europe/Russia/China that hates us anyway and talk down our country and put Bush/Cheney/ and the CIA on trial.
He got a freaking peace prize as his authority.

All awhile he could give a rats petard about terror at Fort Hood.


29 posted on 11/17/2009 11:12:06 AM PST by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives
"U.S. commanders told FOX News soldiers are not reading Miranda rights to detainees, but those commanders could not speak to whether the FBI was doing so."

The practice has not been instituted at detention facilities in Iraq or at Guantanamo Bay, according to U.S. senior military officials. Asked if the Obama administration had ordered that Miranda rights be read to certain detainees, White House spokesman Robert Gibbs said, "I have no reason to disbelieve a member of Congress. But I don't know any of the circumstances that are involved around it." But Gibbs acknowledged that it wouldn't be a surprise to find out that it was happening. Justice Department spokesman Dean Boyd denied there has been a policy change covering detainees. "There has been no policy change nor blanket instruction for FBI agents to Mirandize detainees overseas," he said in a statement, adding, "While there have been specific cases in which FBI agents have Mirandized suspects overseas, at both Bagram and in other situations, in order to preserve the quality of evidence obtained, there has been no overall policy change with respect to detainees." Some senators wonder what would have happened if Khaled Sheikh Mohammad, a self-confessed architect of the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, had been read his Miranda rights. "I'd be very concerned if we're sending FBI agents over to Bagram Air Base in the middle of a military operation to start reading Miranda rights to detainees caught on the battlefield," Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., said.

30 posted on 11/17/2009 11:13:15 AM PST by anglian
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives
Is it illegal to hope and pray that Obama dies soon ?

the only down side would be all the weeping by his zombie drones for months, and having to see his name on airports and libtaries for the next 100 years

31 posted on 11/17/2009 11:14:45 AM PST by KTM rider ( ..........tell me this really isn't happening ! !)
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives
He got a freaking peace prize as his authority.

Then he gets all the respect and consideration the Constitution demands for someone with such a claim of authority.

32 posted on 11/17/2009 11:17:47 AM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: the lone haranguer
Yes they do and you are not ignorant.

But don't you think that since Obama and Holder are giving 9/11 terrorists a fair trial with mom and apple pie in NY that the very reasoning of the GLOBAL PEACE INITIATIVE and Obama's orders/ROE killing our soldiers are relevant FACTS they should atleast by now be reporting?

The media are covering for a man that is breaking the law and the very oath to which he took and backing him by ignoring terrorisim on OUR OWN SOIL AT FORT HOOD? This is beyond words--- it is even beyond DISGUSTING!

RANT OVER. I apologize but I am so mad I could spit nails.

ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!

33 posted on 11/17/2009 11:21:56 AM PST by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: anglian

A report on a radio show mentioned that in the case of KSM at least, a “clean” FBI team without access to intel info but armed with US Court level evidence, restarted the questioning process and that this info, not the classified stuff, will be the basis of the trial.

This confirms your post, despite the official denials, that there are teams of FBI gathering evidence etc, for some HVT’s in Afghanistan.


34 posted on 11/17/2009 11:29:22 AM PST by swarthyguy (THERE WILL BE A BLOODBATH - Matthew Hoh/MSNBC on what happens when US leaves)
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives

“All awhile he could give a rats petard about terror at Fort Hood.”

Thinking Anew—Security Priorities for the Next Administration

PROCEEDINGS REPORT OF THE HSPI PRESIDENTIAL TRANSITION TASK FORCE
April 2008-January 2009

One of the persons helping to define our security.

PAGE 29

Nidal Hasan
Uniformed Services University School of Medicine

http://www.gwumc.edu/hspi/old/pttf_proceedingsreport_05.19.09.pdf

Connecting the DOTS, Obama Muslims and Terrorism


35 posted on 11/17/2009 11:29:48 AM PST by scgator
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To: tacticalogic

Yes the part of the Constitution that says

All Presidents that obtain a peace prize in office, that are half black, called to be the messiah by Lous Farrakhan and Fidel Castro; that’s wife wears high waisted ugly belts and spends potloads of money on date nights, everything he wants and sees and halloween decorations all while picking out a cool puppy and doing shout outs from his teleprompter and funds his slush funds and crony mob thug lowlifes with communists and czars that proclaim the trees can sue us; Can and SHALL put the country in danger and play lawyer on TV, scream preach propaganda in corruption, utilize taxpayer money to pay for propaganda commercials, bow to all emperors and rich sheiks like Erkel the retard and be on retainer for terrorists.


36 posted on 11/17/2009 11:32:56 AM PST by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives

Blood is shooting from my eyes !


37 posted on 11/17/2009 11:44:40 AM PST by lionheart 247365 (-:{ GLEN BECK is 0bama's TRANSPARENCY CZAR }:-)
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives; All

The guy stealing food from 7/11 is on equal terms with the guy killing soldiers....ain’t that a nice thought!?


38 posted on 11/17/2009 11:45:51 AM PST by Rick_Michael (Have no fear "President Government" is here)
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To: Rick_Michael

NO EFFING WAY!!!

We’re Mirandaizing these animals!

We can’t get rid of these clowns soon enough.

Best,

Chris


39 posted on 11/17/2009 11:51:54 AM PST by section9
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To: tacticalogic

Exactly...we’re operating in a foreign country. How do our laws apply? LOL, I think we should turn all our prisoners over to the afgans/paks. If its anything like IRQ the police will give them a good beat down and then send them off to jail (which is almost a death sentence).


40 posted on 11/17/2009 11:57:10 AM PST by 556x45
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